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Re: Apple iOS6 Preview

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Post by JoeCortopassi »

astral303 wrote: post #37

Maps with turn-by-turn navigation (long overdue) and transit APIs sound very promising. Having portable maps is one of the key strengths of a smartphone and this kind of lower-level integration now kicks it up a notch. He mentioned "biking and hiking" for the transit apps: that's exciting! Also, turn-by-turn navigation has this "overview" mode--tap it and you exit the forced-point-of-view navigation and get to pan ar…

Maps in iOS6 look great, but will moving away from Google break legacy apps for <5.1? I'm sure main stuff will integrate pretty seamlessly, but what about the little stuff? (e.g. in a UIWebView, if I make a link to google maps, when the user clicks it, they are taken to the Map app). In the long run, it's the right decision, I'm just eager to test some of our MapKit apps on iOS6, to see what breaks

Re: Apple iOS6 Preview

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Post by astral303 »

whalesalad wrote: post #40
rflrob wrote: post #35

One of my greatest points of irritation with the old Maps app is that there are no scale bars. People working on Google Maps have told me it's Apple's problem, and Apple employees (though granted not people directly involved with iOS) have told me it's Google's problem. Maybe now that it's all under one roof, someone can figure out how to put them in...

I wish the zoom slider existed too. Sometimes I cannot afford to use two hands to pinch-squeeze and it would be nice to adjust zoom level with one finger.

you can double-tap with one finger or two fingers to do stepped zoom in or zoom out

Re: Apple iOS6 Preview

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Post by toyg »

wavephorm wrote: post #31
ryannielsen wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm really getting sick of this "throw-away hardware" culture that Apple is enforcing. Just because iPad 1 can't run iOS 6 doesn't mean it's suddenly "trash". Also, the first iPad is woefully underpowered – thanks to the display, it's quite memory and graphics constrained. It's entirely possible Apple wasn't willing get new iOS features working well on that hardware, especially considering iPad 1's install base is a…

I don't care about new iOS features, or any of their iCloud nonsense, I know it won't support Siri (ipad1 lacked a microphone). What I do care about is the web browser on my iPad not receiving any software updates... ever. That's a serious problem. Without any software upgrades ever, the iPad will become the future IE. In fact, this is worse because of Apple's closed system they also won't allow 3rd parties to upgrad…

The purpose of Apple software is to sell Apple hardware. In this sense, forced obsolescence works wonderfully... for them.

Re: Apple iOS6 Preview

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Post by chrislomax »

It's hard to get excited when there is no mention of how well it is supported in the UK. I don't know how well Siri will do in the UK with the updates and if we will get the map support for turn by turn.

We still can't search for businesses in the UK

Re: Apple iOS6 Preview

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Post by rb2k_ »

timdorr wrote: post #20

Interesting that the new Maps makes no mention of public transit support. Is that gone completely now? It looks like your app can register as a "router" to support different types of navigation routing, but it would suck if that is no longer built in.

At least the beta supposedly just points you at the app store for public transport in Boston.

(haven't tried this myself, asked a friend of mine who installed the beta)

Re: Apple iOS6 Preview

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Post by ChuckMcM »

astral303 wrote: post #37

Maps with turn-by-turn navigation (long overdue) and transit APIs sound very promising. Having portable maps is one of the key strengths of a smartphone and this kind of lower-level integration now kicks it up a notch. He mentioned "biking and hiking" for the transit apps: that's exciting! Also, turn-by-turn navigation has this "overview" mode--tap it and you exit the forced-point-of-view navigation and get to pan ar…

Sort of FYI, Google's original effort at providing their own database for map information was that Navtec would not license them the right to use map data for turn-by-turn navigation. It was really quite amazing to see all of the constraints that were put on map data (it was so much easier for Trimble, the original company, to exploit their map database than to try to compete in the gadget space).

I don't doubt that Apple has been working on their own database to use for turn by turn and it wasn't until now that they had it ready to go. Stuff you need that isn't "normally" in a GIS database are driving restrictions, road quality metrics, etc. There are also 'quirks' exceptions for this data like "In theory you can get from A->B->C in Portland on this route but you really want to go A->D->C." some of the "roads" in SE Portland would challenge dune buggies :-)

Re: Apple iOS6 Preview

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Post by ynniv »

sgt wrote: post #23

Does the "iOS 6" image seem blurry to someone else or is it just me? That's not very Apple-like.

Good catch! The image is 668x222, but the img tag is width="667" height="221".

Re: Apple iOS6 Preview

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Post by ryannielsen »

wavephorm wrote: post #31
ryannielsen wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm really getting sick of this "throw-away hardware" culture that Apple is enforcing. Just because iPad 1 can't run iOS 6 doesn't mean it's suddenly "trash". Also, the first iPad is woefully underpowered – thanks to the display, it's quite memory and graphics constrained. It's entirely possible Apple wasn't willing get new iOS features working well on that hardware, especially considering iPad 1's install base is a…

I don't care about new iOS features, or any of their iCloud nonsense, I know it won't support Siri (ipad1 lacked a microphone). What I do care about is the web browser on my iPad not receiving any software updates... ever. That's a serious problem. Without any software upgrades ever, the iPad will become the future IE. In fact, this is worse because of Apple's closed system they also won't allow 3rd parties to upgrad…

Without any software upgrades ever, the iPad will become the future IE. In fact, this is worse because of Apple's closed system they also won't allow 3rd parties to upgrade the software either.

Huh? Citation needed. Apple didn't suddenly cut off App Store updates to iPad 1. Developers are free to support (or not support) iOS 5, just as they were with other iOS updates.

Furthermore, are you remotely surprised by this? iPhones prior to iPhone 3GS aren't supported by iOS 5.

Do you have the same issues with Android? There's a platform that's destined to be the "future IE". How many Android users are stuck on 2.2 or 2.3, with a horribly crippled browser?

Finally, Apple does allow other browsers, audio players and other new types of software. They don't threaten Apple's platform, the bolster it.

I'm not sure where you're digging up this FUD, but it's way off base.

Re: Apple iOS6 Preview

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Post by [deleted] »

wavephorm wrote: post #31
ryannielsen wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm really getting sick of this "throw-away hardware" culture that Apple is enforcing. Just because iPad 1 can't run iOS 6 doesn't mean it's suddenly "trash". Also, the first iPad is woefully underpowered – thanks to the display, it's quite memory and graphics constrained. It's entirely possible Apple wasn't willing get new iOS features working well on that hardware, especially considering iPad 1's install base is a…

I don't care about new iOS features, or any of their iCloud nonsense, I know it won't support Siri (ipad1 lacked a microphone). What I do care about is the web browser on my iPad not receiving any software updates... ever. That's a serious problem. Without any software upgrades ever, the iPad will become the future IE. In fact, this is worse because of Apple's closed system they also won't allow 3rd parties to upgrad…

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