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For advertising, Firefox now collects user data by default

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Re: For advertising, Firefox now collects user data by default

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Post by l0b0 »

kwhitefoot wrote: post #4

So how do we turn it off? Found it. Go to settings, type privacy into the search box. The last item under "Firefox Data Collection and Use" is a check box labelled "Allow websites to perform privacy-preserving ad measurement". It was already unchecked on mine when I looked just now.

On NixOS, set

  programs.firefox.policies.Preferences."dom.private-attribution.submission.enabled" = false;
(https://gitlab.com/engmark/root/-/commit/bbb3ff9efb878ddda38...)

Re: For advertising, Firefox now collects user data by default

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Post by awesomeMilou »

doix wrote: post #67
cynicalsecurity wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DRM on a website = no search engine can scan the website = no users = the DRM website dies.

If the DRM is coming from Google, I'm sure they'll take that into consideration when designing it. Feels ripe for an anti-trust lawsuit, but IANAL so who knows.

With that logic, wouldn't Widevine DRM already be ripe for an antitrust lawsuit? Genuine question.

Re: For advertising, Firefox now collects user data by default

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Post by rwmj »

lopis wrote: post #28
eco wrote: post #17

The CTO of Mozilla just posted on /r/firefox about this: https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1e43w7v/a_word_abo...

I think this line is very important: > First, in the absence of alternatives, there are enormous economic incentives for advertisers to try to bypass these countermeasures, leading to a perpetual arms race that we may not win. It's very likely that this arms race will lead to DRM in web publications and video feeds (which Google is already experimenting with).

> leading to a perpetual arms race that we may not win

So we're not even going to try.

Re: For advertising, Firefox now collects user data by default

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Post by jeltz »

st_goliath wrote: post #60

While the Wikimedia Foundation is often quoted as having cancer[1], I guess the Mozilla Foundation has Alzheimer's, constantly forgetting who they are and why they are here in the first place. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon/Wikipedia_has_C...

And the scandals they have been involved in the past. Cliqz was another attempt by Mozilla to invest in privacy preserving technology (that time search, this time ads) where they did a stealth launch without user consent.

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Post by moontear »

hulk_ wrote: post #70

Just installed Chrome again. I loved everything about the idea behind Mozilla but the browser is quite not useable these days. Really sad.

How is your personal story related to the story? I don’t believe Chrome is better than Firefox on terms of ad tracking.

Re: For advertising, Firefox now collects user data by default

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Post by JimDabell »

cynicalsecurity wrote: post #57
lopis wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this line is very important: > First, in the absence of alternatives, there are enormous economic incentives for advertisers to try to bypass these countermeasures, leading to a perpetual arms race that we may not win. It's very likely that this arms race will lead to DRM in web publications and video feeds (which Google is already experimenting with).

DRM on a website = no search engine can scan the website = no users = the DRM website dies.

Which is one of the main reasons why it’s such a problem that the search engine with an overwhelming market share also owns the browser with overwhelming market share and is also the largest online ad company. Not to mention they pay billions each year to the other browsers. Google has a huge amount of control over every part of this.

Re: For advertising, Firefox now collects user data by default

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Post by wkat4242 »

Semaphor wrote: post #64
agos wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what data protection agencies?

I used the wrong word, it’s authorities. The German word is "Datenschutzaufsichtsbehörde"

This is why scrabble is such a popular game in Germany :)

Re: For advertising, Firefox now collects user data by default

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Post by linuxandrew »

hulk_ wrote: post #70

Just installed Chrome again. I loved everything about the idea behind Mozilla but the browser is quite not useable these days. Really sad.

Out of the frying pan and into the fire. With regards to privacy and tracking Chrome/Chromium is so much worse than Firefox. Whether it be terrible defaults, exceptions which allow Google to see your system info, or an incognito mode which is a misnomer, Chrome just doesn't do privacy at all.

I can sympathise about general usability concerns but they don't really relate to the OP.

I personally run Ungoogled Chromium for anything that doesn't work in LibreWolf, which is fortunately not too much.

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