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For advertising, Firefox now collects user data by default
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#52>But how does the PPA actually work? There is an aggregation server between the advertising provider and the users or their data, which anonymizes the information from the individual app browsers. Only then does it make the data available to the participating advertising customers.
Question is, how do we know that? What proof do we have of that?
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#53The CTO of Mozilla just posted on /r/firefox about this: https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1e43w7v/a_word_abo...
> doing something about [the massive web of surveillance] is a primary reason many of us are at Mozilla > we consider modal consent dialogs to be a user-hostile distraction from better defaults, and do not believe such an experience would have been an improvement here. You know what's user-hostile? Doing things without the user's knowledge or consent. The new tab page of Firefox after an update often advertises featu…
Thats just it, that they are doing this in a somewhat quiet manner is a sign that they know how this would go down.
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#54So where can I donate to Ladybird browser development? Before anyone tries to respond with it. It is https://donorbox.org/ladybird
Why Ladybird? Why not Servo?
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#55So where can I donate to Ladybird browser development? Before anyone tries to respond with it. It is https://donorbox.org/ladybird
They really need to start adding windows as a build target at some near point in the future. As a webdev, that’s the only way I can convince the public to switch.
"that’s the only way I can convince the public to switch."
It is not ready, to be a public browser.
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#56Firefox mobile also won't let me into about:config. So I guess that's the end. Opera? Other recommendations?
Elinks via Termux? /jk
For those that don't know, Elinks is a text only terminal browser.
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#57The CTO of Mozilla just posted on /r/firefox about this: https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1e43w7v/a_word_abo...
I think this line is very important: > First, in the absence of alternatives, there are enormous economic incentives for advertisers to try to bypass these countermeasures, leading to a perpetual arms race that we may not win. It's very likely that this arms race will lead to DRM in web publications and video feeds (which Google is already experimenting with).
DRM on a website = no search engine can scan the website = no users = the DRM website dies.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think this line is very important: > First, in the absence of alternatives, there are enormous economic incentives for advertisers to try to bypass these countermeasures, leading to a perpetual arms race that we may not win. It's very likely that this arms race will lead to DRM in web publications and video feeds (which Google is already experimenting with).
DRM on a website = no search engine can scan the website = no users = the DRM website dies.
Which is why it hasn't rolled out yet. Once this is solved, you bet your ass they will start rolling it out.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
These dark patterns will prevail. However, I honestly expect their reasoning to be "every single user reading heise.de should have a cookie banner blocking enabled in their Ad Blocker". Also, I think you can accept it for free when you click "Einstellungen", this is not golem.de.
they will not prevail, unless we collectively let them do so. they are already probably in breach of GDPR, and I don't see the EU backing down on this stuff.
Collectively? More people have no idea what the GSPR even is, what cookies are, what the question even means, and just randomly click a button.
The only way to get some collective action from 99.999% of web users, would be to get multiple high profile media personalities to endlessly, repeatedly tweet about it... along with a catchy jingle.
Users would still have no idea about anything privacy related, but maybe 10% would do as commanded by their idols.
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#60While the Wikimedia Foundation is often quoted as having cancer[1], I guess the Mozilla Foundation has Alzheimer's, constantly forgetting who they are and why they are here in the first place.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon/Wikipedia_has_C...