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Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

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Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

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What is the privacy implication of AI training?

Models can easily regurgitate back training data verbatim, so anything private can be in theory accessed by anyone without proper access to that file

This is partly true but less and less every day.

IMO the bigger concern is that this data is not just used to train models. It is stored, completely verbatim, in the training set data. They aren’t pulling from PDFs in realtime during training runs, they’re aggregating all of that text and storing it somewhere. And that somewhere is prone to employees viewing, leakage to the internet, etc.

Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

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I care much more about allowing my content to be used at all, despite any privacy concerns. I simply don't want one single AI model to train on my content.

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Just wait until you hear about Copilot :D

Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

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Every single week I have to refuse enabling back up for my pictures on my Google pixel. I refuse it today, next week I open the app and the UI shows the back up option enabled with a button "continue using the app with back up". Somebody took the time to talk down my comment about this being a strategy to give their AI more training data. I continue believing that if they have your data they will use it.

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Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

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This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone, their entire business is our data. I always encrypt anything important I want to backup on the cloud.

But we shouldn't have to, and just because Google is famous for it, it doesn't make it right or acceptable.

Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

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post #28

Every single week I have to refuse enabling back up for my pictures on my Google pixel. I refuse it today, next week I open the app and the UI shows the back up option enabled with a button "continue using the app with back up". Somebody took the time to talk down my comment about this being a strategy to give their AI more training data. I continue believing that if they have your data they will use it.

I in no way want to absolve Google, but that's the case for so many app permissions on Android. Turn off notifications, and two weeks later the same app your turned off notifications for is once again sending you notifications. It's beyond a joke.

You might have disabled one type of notifications, instead of all types of them. Making sure I disable all types of notification from an app usually works for me. What brand of phone are you using?

Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

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Meta commentary but still relevant I think: The author first refers to his source as Kevin Bankston in the article's subtitle. This is also the name shown in the embedded tweet. But the following two references call him Kevin _Bankster_ (which seems like an amusing portmanteau of banker and gangster I guess). Is the author not proofreading his own copy? Are there no editors? If the author can't even keep the name of…

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