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Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

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Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I care much more about allowing my content to be used at all, despite any privacy concerns. I simply don't want one single AI model to train on my content.

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Perhaps in response to environmental regulations to prevent toxic waste from being dumped into your own backyard, you should respond, "create your own country, then".

Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

#43
post #28

Every single week I have to refuse enabling back up for my pictures on my Google pixel. I refuse it today, next week I open the app and the UI shows the back up option enabled with a button "continue using the app with back up". Somebody took the time to talk down my comment about this being a strategy to give their AI more training data. I continue believing that if they have your data they will use it.

I fixed this by disabling the Photos app and using Google Gallery (on the Play store). It's the same thing as Photos for what I was using it for, without the online features.

Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

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post #28

Every single week I have to refuse enabling back up for my pictures on my Google pixel. I refuse it today, next week I open the app and the UI shows the back up option enabled with a button "continue using the app with back up". Somebody took the time to talk down my comment about this being a strategy to give their AI more training data. I continue believing that if they have your data they will use it.

I don't get those prompts with Google Photos. Have you tried selecting "Use without an account" in the account menu at the top right?

Thank you, I didn't even consider this to be a possibility. I back up to my own storage and was annoyed by this message.

Untying photos from my google account is even better!

Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

#45
Meta commentary but still relevant I think:

The author first refers to his source as Kevin Bankston in the article's subtitle. This is also the name shown in the embedded tweet. But the following two references call him Kevin _Bankster_ (which seems like an amusing portmanteau of banker and gangster I guess).

Is the author not proofreading his own copy? Are there no editors? If the author can't even keep the name of his source straight and represent that consistently in the article, is there reason to think other details are being relayed correctly?

Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

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It is urgent to educate people about how these systems work. Search requires indexing. Summarizing with a LM requires inference. Data used for inference usually is forgotten forever after used, as it is not used for training.

Yeah, that should be obvious for many here, but even software engineers believe that AI are sentient things that will remember everything that they see. And that is a problem, because public is afraid of the tech due to a wrong understanding of how it works. Eventually they will demand laws protecting them from stuff that have never existed.

Yes, there are social issues with AI. But the article just shows a big tech illiteracy gap.

Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I care much more about allowing my content to be used at all, despite any privacy concerns. I simply don't want one single AI model to train on my content.

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I wrote my own software. Turns out LLMs are still training on my data.

What’s the next step?

Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

#49

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Then consider me "delusational" (as you put it).

I am unaware of "these corporations" -- which ones exactly? my answer doesn't hinge on you making that clear but you still should -- throwing their opponents into reeducation camps, or outright killing them.

Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

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post #7

There is no cloud. It's just someone else's computer.

Just because “the cloud” is someone else’s computer doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

I think that wasn’t supposed to be taken literally but more tongue in cheek. The main point being that it belongs to some other party. But the cloud buzzword is fuzzy in description.

Ever since ‘cloud’ privacy took a nosedive

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