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Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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Post by TeMPOraL »

happymellon wrote: post #193
TeMPOraL wrote: post #183

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I'm a text person too, but I suspect we're not the majority, and definitely not the entirety of the smartphone-using population. I recently noticed my wife is increasingly often exchanging voice messages on Messenger instead of text messages, with increasing number of her friends. I queried about this several times, she says they all find it more convenient. It sounds unbelievable to my text-first sensibilities, but…

Speech to text exists, they should have stuck to that. Voice notes are garbage. Sorry I'm in a noisy place, I can't hear your text message.

They're not using voice messages as alternative to typing; most of the time, they have hands free to use the keyboard. They're using voice messages as asynchronous, replayable phone calls.

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Post by saagarjha »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #191
throwaway55110 wrote: post #186

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This is very prevalent in the expat community where I have many friends. I hate it. At least the current AI developments made it possible for messenger apps to transcribe the messages to text (and back, though I haven't seen that feature yet) - we both get what's best for us. And same with voice calls and voicemail - I mostly don't accept calls and let them all go to voicemail. iPhone transcribes what they're saying…

> iPhone transcribes what they're saying in real time and I can decide to pick up. How does this work? Is it a carrier feature? On my iPhone, if it goes to voicemail the call is done and the display goes to sleep. I have to go looking for the message in the voicemail to interact with it. I’m in France and have never seen this on the two carriers I’ve used (Bouygues and Free).

It's US only.

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Post by saagarjha »

RachelF wrote: post #78
grishka wrote: post #70

It's a bit too small, but I like that it's a thing. However, for my own use, I want something in-between. A 4" phone would be ideal. I'm still confused how there aren't any phones for people who still use a computer as their primary means of accessing the internet . Even for this one, the media review section makes it look like it's "to distract oneself from social media". As if a phone's primary purpose isn't to be…

iPhone 4 or 12 mini size is probably ideal for me personally. While this is small, it is double the thickness of most modern phones. Still, it is great to see a bit of creativity in the smartphone market. Most phones are pretty much the same these days.

Those phones differ in screen size by two whole inches, so putting them in the same bucket is basically useless.

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Post by saagarjha »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #153
tenken wrote: post #77

Would Google Fi support it? ... Interesting that they say it has "Google Certification" but no Fi support, which imho has International support (I live in the USA, but have traveled internationally with Pixel phones on Fi service with 0 issues for me )...

What Google Fi plan do you use? Do you really travel enough internationally to make it worth the cost?

You can turn on their international plan on a month-to-month basis fwiw

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Post by torlok »

goodburb wrote: post #147
wkat4242 wrote: post #6

Part of the problem with this brand is that this "Android 13 Smartphone" will probably stay that forever. Updates are very very minimal. I have their first jelly and it didn't even get the upgrade they promised. Other than that, it's not so bad. Swype-typing makes a small keyboard still useful. But the updates really are the achilles heel here.

I have used my Android 9 flagship smartphone for 6 years without issues, but had all sorts of issues on iOS when I avoided updates, specifically with apps, missing or broken. Unlike iOS, most feature updates on Android are apps, not OS versions. iOS tends to be monolithic. You don't need to update to use the latest apps or security updates (which is also a patch), at least for a while. Android updates would make sens…

Why would you avoid iOS updates? I only buy middle of the line used iPhones about every 3 years, and had no issues all the way into EOL. Apple keeps their phones updated for 6+ years and they always run smoothly. It's like the only great thing I can say about the company. Changing the battery yourself is easy too.

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Post by janandonly »

brnt wrote: post #165
TeMPOraL wrote: post #144

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Just give us a commbadge then. Star Trek had it right all along. Commbadge (or flip communicator) is for talking. A PADD is for reading, writing, media consumption. A tricorder is for recording, remote sensing and remote operating needs. You always have at minimum the first one when in the go. When working, you usually have all on you. But then, at home and work you also have proper computer terminals available and t…

20 years ago I was very resistant to buying any mobile phone because I was waiting for an in ear piece that would do the whole job, and let you dial by voice. It seemed just around to corner, and logical, because who would want to carry a phone everywhere?

If you combine an Apple Watch with Apple EarPods you get exactly that

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Post by grishka »

sulandor wrote: post #192
microtonal wrote: post #175

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I loved the 12 Mini, but battery life was one of the reasons to upgrade. 44% after 24 hours is very impressive. I often wouldn't make it through the day.

there are A LOT of settings in ios that can safely be disabled while retaining "phone" functionality and conserving energy/data

In my own experience iPhones somehow just love eating through battery doing nothing. I know because I have an iPhone I hardly use. It takes around 3 days to completely drain the battery doing nothing laying on my desk. Airplane mode does extend it by a lot. Android is much better at this, probably thanks to the "doze mode".

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Post by cubefox »

rostayob wrote: post #7
DidYaWipe wrote: post #5

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Interesting. The headphone jack would be my main reason for buying this thing. Recently forgot my iPad on a trip, and couldn't listen to anything on the plane because my goddamned iPhone lacks a headphone jack. So offensively stupid.

Note that I was fairly careless with it, and I'm pretty clumsy. It probably fell 20+ times. But still, it feels very cheap (and I suppose it makes sense given the price).

> It probably fell 20+ times

That's more than normal phones could withstand.

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Post by hagbard_c »

mixermachine wrote: post #50
hagbard_c wrote: post #12

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This is not as big a problem as you make it out to be due to the availability of alternative Android distributions. A quick search shows that LineageOS 20 already runs well on this device which means it should be possible to keep it up to date for a long time. I'm using a Samsung SIIIneo from 2014 with LineageOS 18.1 (Android 11) for which LineageOS 20 is available as well while Samsung dropped support at Android 4.4…

If you use apps that require security (like payment apps) you might run into problems here. My company might need to exclude phones like this one soon because more and more CVEs are coming up. Alternative ROMs are often not the solution here because Play Integrity and Key Attestation no longer work. For general messaging and browsing this hardware likely work quite well. Btw I had the Motorola Defy and flashed it eve…

> If you use apps that require security (like payment apps) you might run into problems here

Works fine for me, two banking apps and two digital ID apps running on a Google-free device. About those CVEs, you do realise LineageOS offers OTA updates? Not everyone will install them but the same goes for vendor updates, probably even more so since those sometimes sneak in unwanted 'features'.

If 'your company' 'might need to exclude [my devices]' I will just steer away from 'your company' just like I steered away from the many 'Windows only' companies. I survive, nay I thrive without having to use Windows and the same goes for Google et al.

Nae kings, nae lairds, nae quinns, we are free men!

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