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Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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Post by josephcsible »

keyringlight wrote: post #81
josephcsible wrote: post #58

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I wouldn't use the phrase "require security" to describe such apps, since to fulfill what they actually require, you often end up being less secure. For example, most such apps will be fine with you running them on a phone with 20 critical CVEs from a year ago, but not on a phone that you unlocked the bootloader of to install a version of Android that fixes said CVEs.

The challenge is trust, can you trust that an third party ROM hasn't been tampered with, and that third party maintaining the build for your device is often some guy on the internet you probably only know as a pseudonym. It might be the latest version, it might have some modifications that 'distro' of ROM applies to all their builds, some required per-device changes to make it work, but what degree of confidence is t…

But if you're going to worry that a custom ROM might be compromised, shouldn't you also be worried that you know that the stock ROM contains unfixed critical security vulnerabilities? Wouldn't any reasonable argument to forbid the former also forbid the latter?

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Post by DidYaWipe »

jzymbaluk wrote: post #20
DidYaWipe wrote: post #5

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Interesting. The headphone jack would be my main reason for buying this thing. Recently forgot my iPad on a trip, and couldn't listen to anything on the plane because my goddamned iPhone lacks a headphone jack. So offensively stupid.

Why not just get a 3.5mm to lightning adaptor? They have knock-off/generic versions at gas stations that cost like 5 dollars and it beats lugging around a whole extra device just to use your headphones

Because

A. I didn't know I didn't have my iPad until I was on the plane. I carry it on all trips. And this shouldn't be an issue anyway.

B. They suck. My girlfriend has a Belkin one in her car that produces so much hiss that it is perceivable as, I'd say, 60% of the volume of the music we're listening to. And when the music fades out, it has some absurd AGC that pumps the hiss up to program level.

C. You can't power the device if the Lightning port is occupied by a dongle.

It's disgusting that consumers tolerate this BS and then make excuses for it.

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Post by throwaway2037 »

tenken wrote: post #77

Would Google Fi support it? ... Interesting that they say it has "Google Certification" but no Fi support, which imho has International support (I live in the USA, but have traveled internationally with Pixel phones on Fi service with 0 issues for me )...

What Google Fi plan do you use? Do you really travel enough internationally to make it worth the cost?

Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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Post by DidYaWipe »

Fnoord wrote: post #123
jzymbaluk wrote: post #20

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Why not just get a 3.5mm to lightning adaptor? They have knock-off/generic versions at gas stations that cost like 5 dollars and it beats lugging around a whole extra device just to use your headphones

Another alternative is a small 3.5 mm to Bluetooth device. It allows for any 3.5mm output to use Bluetooth and best of all: already paired and battery is on the module not the headphones themselves. Nice option for (old) cars.

Depends on how "old." Just as pretty much every car finally had an auxiliary input (even the cheapest rental car), Apple deleted the headphone jack from its best-selling music player.

And now we've regressed to no aux inputs, no audio outputs, and nothing but shitty Bluetooth. But the '90s Pioneer head unit in my car has an input, as does my stock 2009 Ranger.

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Post by dangrossman »

grishka wrote: post #148
sharts wrote: post #136

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Has there ever been a focus on ergonomics over aesthetics by any manufacturer of any tech product over the last decade? Nothing comes to mind.

Those curved keyboards and mice come to my mind.

Those are from the 1990s.

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Post by grishka »

dangrossman wrote: post #155
grishka wrote: post #148

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Those curved keyboards and mice come to my mind.

Those are from the 1990s.

These exists that somewhat popular Logitech mouse, I don't remember the exact model, but it's "ergonomic" and modern enough that it has USB-C and bluetooth. I've also seen curved modern keyboards, albeit those are rarer.

edit: Logitech MX Master 3

Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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Post by ecjhdnc2025 »

I miss really small phones.

My favourite two small iPhones were the small-by-contemporary-standards iPhone 5S and SE.

My favourite phone ever, small or large, was the Sony Xperia Mini Pro (the second of the Xperia Mini devices, with the slide out keyboard). An absolutely amazingly useful, chunky little device with a super keyboard, an unusually good camera for the time, and an actual shutter button for it.

I'd have used that phone for a couple of years longer had the ambient light sensor not failed. Hard to use a phone that doesn't turn off the touchscreen when it's pressed against your ear.

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Post by nanomonkey »

orson2077 wrote: post #93
RachelF wrote: post #78

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iPhone 4 or 12 mini size is probably ideal for me personally. While this is small, it is double the thickness of most modern phones. Still, it is great to see a bit of creativity in the smartphone market. Most phones are pretty much the same these days.

iPhone 4 was the apex of phone design, I will die on this hill!

iPhone 4 was a great size and looked great, but the sharp edges would wear through your jeans in a way that the earlier iPhones did not. That's my only complaint.

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Post by barbs »

askvictor wrote: post #127
barbs wrote: post #124

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Unihertz will be launching their Jelly Max phone in a couple of days, which is bigger than the Jelly Star but (hopefully) not too big. As a 1st gen iPhone SE user I'm intrigued.

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fg... Looks to be about the same size as iPhone SE 2016

Yeah roughly, although it's estimated to be a lot thicker, greater than 1.5 cms by some sources.

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Post by tomjen3 »

montroser wrote: post #24

This is cool as an option. But, why oh why mustn't we have any 5 inch Android phone on the market? It's not as if there's no demand, as evidenced by iPhone SE on the iOS side. The last real Android choice was the Pixel 4a and beyond that, everything has been mega huge.

Because those of us who want a small phone likely thinks that is too big. Hell the erstwhile mini was oversized, part of why it didn’t sell so well I suspect.

3.5in and then not nearly as thick as this one, would be ideal for me. Or just keep the device size from the first couple iPhones.

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