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The UK's Brexit dream is dead

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Re: The UK's Brexit dream is dead

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Post by MattPalmer1086 »

billy99k wrote: post #80
MattPalmer1086 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What utter nonsense. We have left the EU. Both the main parties, left and right, say we are not going to rejoin. The only power the EU has over us is the same they have over any external coubtry who wants to trade with them. We can improve our trade deals with the EU and harmonise where it makes sense, instead of burdening business with two parallel sts of regulations and testing regimes. This isn't rejoining the EU.

"The only power the EU has over us is the same they have over any external coubtry who wants to trade with them' My point still stands. As soon as the UK left, they were threatened with horrible trade deals if they ever came back. The anti-brexit supporters seem to show this as a reason why they should have stayed and hate the pro-brexit supporters, rather than hating the EU for the threats in the first place.

If they rejoined the single market and customs union they would have the same trade deal as every other member. That's kind of the point of it.

Not exactly sure what you are referring to when you suggest we were threatened with horrible trade deals if we ever came back.

Can you provide some references?

Re: The UK's Brexit dream is dead

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Post by MattPalmer1086 »

tokai wrote: post #11
mmaniac wrote: post #9

I expect that the UK will end up rejoining the EU on much worse terms than we had before. Sooner or later it'll happen.

Don't think EU will let them back in.

The EU has repeatedly said we would be welcomed back. Obviously we wouldn't be able to do that unless there was a clear political mandate for that. It would take (in my opinion) at least a generation before those conditions would be possible.

Re: The UK's Brexit dream is dead

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Post by kapacuk »

tzs wrote: post #57

Did the opposition to Brexit before the referendum campaign all or mostly on why Brexit would be bad, or did they put any significant effort into arguing that even if you were very pro-Brexit you should vote "remain" on that particular referendum because that particular referendum was flawed? The question on the referendum was "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Unio…

That would be very sensible approach, but the EU refused to enter any negotiations until the UK started the withdrawal process.

Re: The UK's Brexit dream is dead

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Post by mensetmanusman »

dave4420 wrote: post #4
coldtea wrote: post #2

> Radical plans to tear EU regulations off Britain’s statute books en masse have already been abandoned. The benefits of buccaneering free trade agreements (FTAs) have proved elusive. Britain's public services, far from receiving a promised boost, have in many cases almost stopped working. The number of people moving to Britain from abroad is higher than ever. It’s not what advocates of Leave had in mind. No, but it'…

Of the three Prime Ministers we’ve had since leaving the EU, two had campaigned for Brexit. (The other was outlasted by a lettuce.) If Conservative Prime Ministers aren’t part of the establishment, who is?

Has anyone outlasted a Doritos bag?
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