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Re: Show HN: I’ve made a cheaper SEO research tool

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Post by weinzierl »

baxtr wrote: post #11

What I learned recently was that all the SEO tool basically query the same back end provider. So I guess it makes sense that there is innovation on the pricing model side of things. We use ubersuggest which has a lifetime pricing, quite neat.

Interesting! I always thought, this kind of data was collected from a plethora of borderline shady browser plugins (SEO plugins amongst them, ironically), toolbars and alt-browsers.

This is also, why I think the data must be heavily biased. For example the HN demographic must be severely underrepresented, because most of us are careful what we install.

Re: Show HN: I’ve made a cheaper SEO research tool

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Post by alangibson »

kulhavy wrote: post #28
matrik wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what’s the name of the backend provider?

I'd prefer not to tell, thank you for understanding!

That just confirmed that you're using "the same backend provider."

Buy itself that's not bad. The problem is that if you're doing what everyone else is doing, then you're probably not realizing any efficiencies. That means your prices will eventually mirror everyone elses.

Re: Show HN: I’ve made a cheaper SEO research tool

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Post by kulhavy »

davidkuennen wrote: post #40

Thank you! This is great. Do you happen to know keyword tools that specialize on app store and play store search?

Hey!

Our data provider has data from these marketplaces and if you stick for long enough with us we will add them for sure as current solutions are sooooo expensive.

Re: Show HN: I’ve made a cheaper SEO research tool

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Post by RamblingCTO »

mikkom wrote: post #30
baxtr wrote: post #11

What I learned recently was that all the SEO tool basically query the same back end provider. So I guess it makes sense that there is innovation on the pricing model side of things. We use ubersuggest which has a lifetime pricing, quite neat.

Please enlighten us about the backend provider, I'm interested. It seems the OP of this thread is using the same backend as he's not willing to tell it. edit: Ubersuggest mentioned by someone says in dev blog https://neilpatel.com/blog/ubersuggest-update/ > My data feed from SEO Power Suite, Data For SEO, and Shared Count totaled $75,253 for January. Is this the backend mentioned? Some direct links for others interes…

Great, thanks for sharing!

Re: Show HN: I’ve made a cheaper SEO research tool

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Post by kulhavy »

scientific_ass wrote: post #35

This is super cool and I would love to try it out. We use SEMrush and they are basically charging us +$1000 dollar for the basic plan, with every other feature as an add-on for addition $200 - $400. Question: Do you have (or plan to provide) features like - -- Questions around the seed keywords -- Keyword exports for external analysis with details like volume, difficulty, etc, -- Can I tag keywords if I save them in…

Hey, Thank you!

We're planning to add premade filters for "Questions" and "Long tail" and a couple of others filtersets.

Keywords Export is coming for sure.

You can't tag just yet, but we will add this to backlog and implement according to our roadmap.

Re: Show HN: I’ve made a cheaper SEO research tool

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Post by weinzierl »

mikkom wrote: post #30
baxtr wrote: post #11

What I learned recently was that all the SEO tool basically query the same back end provider. So I guess it makes sense that there is innovation on the pricing model side of things. We use ubersuggest which has a lifetime pricing, quite neat.

Please enlighten us about the backend provider, I'm interested. It seems the OP of this thread is using the same backend as he's not willing to tell it. edit: Ubersuggest mentioned by someone says in dev blog https://neilpatel.com/blog/ubersuggest-update/ > My data feed from SEO Power Suite, Data For SEO, and Shared Count totaled $75,253 for January. Is this the backend mentioned? Some direct links for others interes…

At first glance these look like sources for backlink data to me, which is the easy part.

I think the real value of a keyword tool like ahrefs lies in the estimated search volume which comes from different sources than the backlinks.

Is this about a monopolistic provider of backlink data or search volume estimates?

Re: Show HN: I’ve made a cheaper SEO research tool

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Post by 55555 »

weinzierl wrote: post #48
mikkom wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please enlighten us about the backend provider, I'm interested. It seems the OP of this thread is using the same backend as he's not willing to tell it. edit: Ubersuggest mentioned by someone says in dev blog https://neilpatel.com/blog/ubersuggest-update/ > My data feed from SEO Power Suite, Data For SEO, and Shared Count totaled $75,253 for January. Is this the backend mentioned? Some direct links for others interes…

At first glance these look like sources for backlink data to me, which is the easy part. I think the real value of a keyword tool like ahrefs lies in the estimated search volume which comes from different sources than the backlinks. Is this about a monopolistic provider of backlink data or search volume estimates?

The search volume estimates come from creating massive amounts of accounts that scrape Google Keyword Tool.
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