I don't like 2024 Google, but they seem to be the only ones trying (at least) to make the least impact with their energy consumption. Why aren't there hit pieces like this on the US intelligence massive Utah Data Center? (for example)
Google's carbon emissions surge nearly 50% due to AI energy demand
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#32So this is why people eventual become batteries for the matrix.
Apparently, instead of batteries the original idea was to have them be part of a brain based neural net which makes a lot more sense than batteries. But this was felt to be too complicated.
If the machines from the Matrix needed to use some mammals as batteries, why not just use cows instead of humans? They'd be much more complacent with living in the Matrix, grazing on virtual fields, and less likely to wise up and try to escape and rebel against the machines since they're not very intelligent and the machines would need a lot less processing power to simulate a realistic cow world than the world in 1999 for humans.
To wit, if someone has access to a lot of GPU compute, could you please use gen-AI to re-make the Matrix but with the characters as cows, I'd pay to watch it. Would definitely beat Matrix Resurrections or whatever that cash grab turd was called.
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#33I don't like 2024 Google, but they seem to be the only ones trying (at least) to make the least impact with their energy consumption. Why aren't there hit pieces like this on the US intelligence massive Utah Data Center? (for example)
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#34I see the current gold rush of AI the same way I saw crypto-currencies. Even if originally there were people that believed in the concept it became just a snake-oil sellers business. The parallelism is made even more relevant by its hungry use of electricity. There is a future for AI but it is not what we see companies developing right now. Chat-bots are more dystopian and problematic than useful. AI future (and pres…
Re: Google's carbon emissions surge nearly 50% due to AI energy demand
#35I see the current gold rush of AI the same way I saw crypto-currencies. Even if originally there were people that believed in the concept it became just a snake-oil sellers business. The parallelism is made even more relevant by its hungry use of electricity. There is a future for AI but it is not what we see companies developing right now. Chat-bots are more dystopian and problematic than useful. AI future (and pres…
Re: Google's carbon emissions surge nearly 50% due to AI energy demand
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because the NSA doesn’t care about their public image or energy consumption. Google at one time did so this makes them pretty big hypocrites
Yeah. Public pressure might actually work against Google, but it’s unlikely to work against the NSA so easily.
It seems clear that the article is not about arbitrary data center usage, it's about a large increase in data center usage at Google, attributable to AI.
The initial premise of the thread was "Why isn't this about (arbitrary data center other than Google)?"
Isn't that easily answered by: because it's about the delta, and the context of AI, where Google is perceived behind, and Satya famously pointed out the energy demands x their margins puts them in a strategic situation with only bad choices?
Witb that context, do you believe this is attributable to someone picking what to write articles about, based on how much they'll be able to influence them to change their behavior?
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#38The galling part of this is that the demand for AI is artificial. Consumers are not demanding AI.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chatgpt-on-track-to-surpass-1...
Consumers are definitely demanding something like ChatGPT. Other companies are trying to ride the wave, and their attempts often feel forced as they’re trying to inject LLMs where they don’t really belong.
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#39Google's document is at: https://www.gstatic.com/gumdrop/sustainability/google-2024-e... See pdf page 8 / document page 7 for details, as well as the graph on page 32/31.
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#40And once again a big tech company proves that as soon as their "principes" are put to the test they will abandon them almost instantly. When buying some wind energy was easy and wasn't really a trade-off they were quick to use big phrases like being "committed to the planet" and such. Commitments seem to be rather "flexible" with these companies.
Also Microsoft: Here, take this "carbon aware" Windows Update.