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Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by rgbrgb »

ottorocket wrote: post #7

Funny how "No AI" has become an feature. As someone how doesn't know anything about motion design, this looks great!

Very interesting marketing development but I do not at all understand why that would be a feature. Would love someone to explain.

"No crypto" labels in the last cycle made sense to me. Similar to "no ads", it points to the business model incentives and how the product is intended to evolve over time.

Conversely, "no ai" feels like a very fuzzy line around which editing features will be included (smart lasso tool? object tracking to frame shots? background / foreground selection?).

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by czhu12 »

Having never used after effects, I would like to say that photopea has probably been my favorite piece of software in the last 10 years.

I diligently disable Adblock on that website and have donated a few times in the past to support them.

I hope to see many more alternatives on the market, and lend my support to anyone building!

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by clementpiki »

dewey wrote: post #107
alt227 wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are advertising it as an after effects alternative (which it looks like you are) then you should be trying to include all features that after effects has.

If most people use 20% of the features of an app, and you create an app that covers these most popular feature really well I think it's fair to call it an alternative. It doesn't say "full clone" or "feature parity".

I could not seriously pretend of a 'feature parity', if I can match 10% of features, that should good enough for most users. I'm not expecting the next Marvel movie to get its SFXs done with PIkimov.

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by clementpiki »

pier25 wrote: post #119
martin-adams wrote: post #90

This is a very nice project and any competition to After Effects is very welcome. One model I'd love to see is a web based front end, but all video processing happens in the backend. Then ship the app as a combined front/backend, or just the front end that connects to a remote backend. That backend could be a server in a studio with beefed up specs, or offloaded to the cloud for solo animators working on complex proj…

This model would be great even for some desktop apps. Imagine you could offload rendering Blender projects to the cloud automatically.

Don't they call it 'render farms'? I will add cloud features, I don't want to deal with massive files hosting. Maybe login box to G. Drive or 1Drive could be a solution.

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by mubu »

clementpiki wrote: post #157
doctorpangloss wrote: post #153

This is from my point of view as an experienced developer and VFX artist, including in-depth knowledge of AE. A 30fps limit is surprising 23.976 as an fps does not seem to be dealt with gracefully Clicking report bug should take me to a bug report form with info Interacting with "rectangle" is surprising because the corners aren't draggable. Probably should default to full size I should be able to wind input fields b…

Thank you for your feedback, the 30fps limit is temporary, until I have fully tested perfs with video files at a higher framerate can you tell me more about 'and let go with momentum', not sure what you mean? Is it about loss of precision, not being responsive, bad snapping to closest frame?

Have you considered opening a staging or experimental branch on a subdomain perhaps? I think people would definitely be interested in testing out new features before they're released without hosting it themself, and I believe you said hosting Pikimov is very cheap.

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by recursive »

Kye wrote: post #113
Zambyte wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Exactly. It omits future network calls (things that have not yet happened by the moment you look), which is what the person you were replying to was talking about.

It does not omit future network calls. You can, in fact, use the network tab to monitor a page's ongoing network activity as originally suggested.

You won't be able to see that activity until after it has happened. An empty network monitor list isn't a guarantee of future behavior. Or current behavior.

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by mclightning »

bluelightning2k wrote: post #18

As a developer it's rare to see something which leaves me feeling "how would you even build something like that..." but this is one of those. Huge cudos for even attempting and following through with something like this!

you follow HN, and some guy posts a video editing js library, another guy builds an app taking that library further, you get inspired and build something even bigger.

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by doctorpangloss »

clementpiki wrote: post #157
doctorpangloss wrote: post #153

This is from my point of view as an experienced developer and VFX artist, including in-depth knowledge of AE. A 30fps limit is surprising 23.976 as an fps does not seem to be dealt with gracefully Clicking report bug should take me to a bug report form with info Interacting with "rectangle" is surprising because the corners aren't draggable. Probably should default to full size I should be able to wind input fields b…

Thank you for your feedback, the 30fps limit is temporary, until I have fully tested perfs with video files at a higher framerate can you tell me more about 'and let go with momentum', not sure what you mean? Is it about loss of precision, not being responsive, bad snapping to closest frame?

When I click and drag on the timeline play bar or a key frame widget in a layer; then, if I release the mouse button with velocity; the play head and key frame keep moving for a little bit, even though I am not dragging them anymore, as though they have momentum and are being dragged to a stop; the widgets should not behave this way.

The big picture feedback is that often there is an alignment between “I have a lot of ideas for unique UX I want to implement” and “I want to wake up this morning and work on this all day.” IMO just copy AE’s UX affordances first if your goal is to make something you want other people to use. Blender spent a decade in the doldrums until it found an audience the moment they relented and copied Maya and Unity’s superior, conventional controls.

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by mrandish »

padenot wrote: post #155
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #28

Can you please clarify, which exactly key features are missing from Firefox that make this app say 'use Chrome or Edge'?

I (Firefox developer working on anything media related) got in contact with the dev on Twitter, and he told me that Web Codecs was missing (and we're shipping this in a month or so, it's been in Nightly for some time), and something to save project file to disk ( https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Window/show... ). So I spoofed the user-agent in a nightly build here on my Linux desktop workstation, then…

Thanks for taking the time to investigate what's currently the gap with FF. As a long-time Firefox user, I'm hoping you can guide this dev regarding ways to get things working from his end while also using this app's needs to inform FF improvements from your end.
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