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Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by Tajnymag »

Timon3 wrote: post #66
beardyw wrote: post #9

I feel like that web only is a positive way forward. If only it was possible to prove nothing goes back to the server I think it would gain a lot more trust. Though companies who want to see your data might not be so keen. On my phone, but will try it out when I get home.

I've long wished for something like OpenBSDs pledge to be available in browsers, ideally both through meta tags and through JS APIs. Once a pledge is made, the resource will be unavailable to the page until it's closed, like: - I pledge to only make network connections to X, Y and Z - I pledge to only make GET requests to http://example.com/foo/ * - I pledge not to use canvas, iFrames or storage APIs This info wouldn…

What you are describing are essentially an extended version of various security http headers.

* first requirement can already be done using Content-Security-Policy header

* haven't found a suitable header for the second requirement

* third requirement can be done with Permissions-Policy header

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by Kye »

Zambyte wrote: post #97
Kye wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In which browser? It's a live view in Chrome and Firefox.

"Live view" means a log of the past, not potential futures.

I don't know what you're on about, but it does show the past and any new network activity.

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by glenneroo »

thiht wrote: post #93
dartos wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you think web only is positive? 15 years from now, will this site still be up? Will you be able to open your projects from today, then? I think web only is a really compelling way to get someone to try a product, but I’d much rather install a tool like this. Unless you could host the site yourself, of course.

Honestly there’s 2 situations: - if the tool is updated continuously for 15 years it’ll still be up - if it’s not updated, it will be technically irrelevant anyway and you’ll have switched to another tool by then Future support is overrated for tools, just use one now and worry about tomorrow later.

Winamp would like to have a word with you :) Granted I'm using the latest release from 2018, but I still sometimes load up v2.x released in 1998 just to show people that 25+ year old software still works just fine... even the AVS visualizer and Shoutcast internet radio features work, which is to me just insane.

I also use older software quite often that has long since been updated, such as older versions of Audacity, Ableton, Adobe Premiere, etc. for various reasons such as: not wanting to spend money, avoiding spyware, ads (see: Windows 11), and other bloat which often IMO negatively outweighs the positivity of new features. There are a lot of other small utilities that I still use that are 10+ years old because they still work fine and I know how to use them blind-folded. There are also tools that haven't received updates in many years but still work great, why would I bother to look for something new that potentially will spy on me and not offer the same functionality?

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by Zambyte »

Kye wrote: post #102
Zambyte wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Live view" means a log of the past, not potential futures.

I don't know what you're on about, but it does show the past and any new network activity.

Yes. Exactly. It omits future network calls (things that have not yet happened by the moment you look), which is what the person you were replying to was talking about.

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by dewey »

alt227 wrote: post #78
clementpiki wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not yet, but it has already been asked several times, so I'll keep that in mind. There's balance hard to find: should I try to make it as complete as AE, or make it a simpler so it's more accessible.

If you are advertising it as an after effects alternative (which it looks like you are) then you should be trying to include all features that after effects has.

If most people use 20% of the features of an app, and you create an app that covers these most popular feature really well I think it's fair to call it an alternative. It doesn't say "full clone" or "feature parity".

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by dylan604 »

dartos wrote: post #81
beardyw wrote: post #9

I feel like that web only is a positive way forward. If only it was possible to prove nothing goes back to the server I think it would gain a lot more trust. Though companies who want to see your data might not be so keen. On my phone, but will try it out when I get home.

Why do you think web only is positive? 15 years from now, will this site still be up? Will you be able to open your projects from today, then? I think web only is a really compelling way to get someone to try a product, but I’d much rather install a tool like this. Unless you could host the site yourself, of course.

Web only does bring with it the notion of web scale rendering. Cloud render farms are already a thing, so it would be a compelling feature. Lots of video acquisition is already cloud based, so the footage is already there. There are still plenty of times where the render stage takes enough time that rendering on my local single machine is not pleasant.

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by aaarrm »

Kye wrote: post #102
Zambyte wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Live view" means a log of the past, not potential futures.

I don't know what you're on about, but it does show the past and any new network activity.

They're saying you won't know until after a request is already sent, and seem to be implying that this somehow stops someone from learning if data is sent to the server or not. I think they've forgotten the original point of this thread because their replies are missing the point

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by suyash »

bluelightning2k wrote: post #18

As a developer it's rare to see something which leaves me feeling "how would you even build something like that..." but this is one of those. Huge cudos for even attempting and following through with something like this!

You start by building your knowledge around computer graphics and modern web development, basically WebGL and modern web APIs have made doing sophisticated graphic applications on the browser. Only limitation right now I see is single threaded limitation on the browser.
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