I've never been interested in this canvas/corkboard kind of software, and I'd never heard of Kinopio, but it's so nice that I'm trying to come up with a reason to use it.
Making the Kinopio source code public
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Re: Making the Kinopio source code public
#32Sorry to be pedantic, but since the licence forbids commercial use, the software isn't open source, but rather just source-available.
We definitely need a term, more accurate than source-available, that describes software whose usage and improvements can only orbit in non-commercial space. For non-software creative works, we have Creative Commons NonCommercial licenses.
> We have definitely need a term, more accurate than source-available
I think you mean more marketable. "Source available" is extremely accurate and descriptive. It's not as sexy, though, and that's the real reason people in favor of broadening what "open source" means don't like to use the available alternatives that actually apply. They want the shine of "open source" without having to meet the criteria. This isn't a problem of language. It's a problem of a group motivated by self-interests wanting something that is directly at odds with what their marks want. Not unlike, for example, used car dealers wanting to put their ads in the "for sale by owner" section and being unhappy about being excluded because it means because of all the people who will only see ads by folks who aren't dealers, when that's the whole point. See also: men who can't hit on women in spaces where men aren't allowed.
Re: Making the Kinopio source code public
#33For others who have no idea what Kinopio is: Kinopio is "a spatial thinking canvas for your new ideas and hard problems". https://kinopio.club/hello-kinopio-m6UmPzsVTQUcarM6ROPsu It's not my kinda thing, but very neat!
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Re: Making the Kinopio source code public
#34I've never been interested in this canvas/corkboard kind of software, and I'd never heard of Kinopio, but it's so nice that I'm trying to come up with a reason to use it.
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Re: Making the Kinopio source code public
#35Sorry to be pedantic, but since the licence forbids commercial use, the software isn't open source, but rather just source-available.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
thanks for letting me know, I've changed the title of the post to "Making the Kinopio Source Code Available"
You might be interested in fair.io, launching next month. We ran into a similar problem a year ago that ended up stirring up a lot of drama, so we are now promoting the term Fair Source instead of Open Source. Fair Source: https://fair.io/ Our drama: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36971490 Lots more context: https://openpath.chadwhitacre.com/2024/the-historical-case-f...
I wish you well but the name is unintuitive (Why fair? Is there an unfair source?) and the definition¹ is vague.
1. Fair Source is software that is safe for companies to share and developers to use. It's best for a company's core products, not shared infrastructure.
Re: Making the Kinopio source code public
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
We definitely need a term, more accurate than source-available, that describes software whose usage and improvements can only orbit in non-commercial space. For non-software creative works, we have Creative Commons NonCommercial licenses.
Why? We all know what "source available" mean and that it's not really open-source.
Somehow you've all established this phrase with the adjective after the noun. I guess it's stuck like that now. "This software is source-available" as in "this chicken is range-free".
Re: Making the Kinopio source code public
#38Sorry to be pedantic, but since the licence forbids commercial use, the software isn't open source, but rather just source-available.
here's a better explanation than I could put in a comment:
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point....
Re: Making the Kinopio source code public
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why? We all know what "source available" mean and that it's not really open-source.
Somehow you've all established this phrase with the adjective after the noun. I guess it's stuck like that now. "This software is source-available" as in "this chicken is range-free".
AKA the postpositive adjective. I do wish they had gone with Available Source Software for the acronym possibilities.
Re: Making the Kinopio source code public
#40I like how the author used Kinopio for his “Uses This” interview: https://usesthis.com/interviews/pirijan/ And I instantly recognized that artwork from Hirō Isono: Seiken Densetsu 3 ! https://archive.org/details/seikendensetsu3sfchiresscans/Sei...
Oh wow I had no idea he cofounded Glitch. Also very cool use of his product for the interview