Hello (again) from the Gemma team! We are quite excited to push this release out and happy to answer any questions! Opinions are our own and not of Google DeepMind.
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Gemma 2: Improving Open Language Models at a Practical Size [pdf]
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Re: Gemma 2: Improving Open Language Models at a Practical Size [pdf]
#22I gave up hope on r"Gem[ma|ini]" long time ago. I don't believe that Google can't produce good LLMs because of its massive company size; Microsoft is also a giant company (more market cap than Google) but it keeps surprising us with the ϕ models. I think Google just lacks the vision to understand what makes a good LLM. Theoretical contributions by research teams are valuable, but the real-world is built around engine…
I wonder if Google is making Deepmind people switch from their cool original research to doing LLMs like everybody else. Having their scale in money and data, I would hire new teams of engineers who want to do LLMs and leave the Deepmind researchers do their thing. Not killing the goose that lays golden eggs.
Re: Gemma 2: Improving Open Language Models at a Practical Size [pdf]
#23And when we continue fine-tune.how much and what type of data we learn it on, I'm pretty sure for a smart agent who is not a knowledgeable expert but primarily a agent (understand what and how) this will get smaller and easier to run everywhere.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
think about training.
I suppose it would act as a concrete separator when instruct tuning, but lots of prompt templates don't use it, especially older ones like Alpaca. Maybe it leads to more overall coherence?
If you have a bunch of small prompts/answers, you can fit them into bigger batches if you use start/stop tokens.
Re: Gemma 2: Improving Open Language Models at a Practical Size [pdf]
#25I gave up hope on r"Gem[ma|ini]" long time ago. I don't believe that Google can't produce good LLMs because of its massive company size; Microsoft is also a giant company (more market cap than Google) but it keeps surprising us with the ϕ models. I think Google just lacks the vision to understand what makes a good LLM. Theoretical contributions by research teams are valuable, but the real-world is built around engine…
Claude's reign has begun, and I'd say it has a solid enough lead for at least another two weeks of dominance before it's dethroned.
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#26So it's twice the size of phi 3 and considerably worse? What am I missing
Small models are never going to be generalists, so having several small models allows you to pick the one that best fits your needs.
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#27Do I have to manually sanitize the input before I give it to the model?
Re: Gemma 2: Improving Open Language Models at a Practical Size [pdf]
#28I gave up hope on r"Gem[ma|ini]" long time ago. I don't believe that Google can't produce good LLMs because of its massive company size; Microsoft is also a giant company (more market cap than Google) but it keeps surprising us with the ϕ models. I think Google just lacks the vision to understand what makes a good LLM. Theoretical contributions by research teams are valuable, but the real-world is built around engine…
Re: Gemma 2: Improving Open Language Models at a Practical Size [pdf]
#29Phi-3 blow this out of the water. Benchmark | Gemma 2 (9B) | Phi-3 Small (7B) -----------------------------|----------------|------------------- MMLU (5-Shot) | 63.6 | 75.7 HellaSwag (5-Shot) | 49.8 | 77.0 ANLI (7-Shot) | 48.7 | 58.1 GSM-8K (8-Shot; CoT) | 59.8 | 89.6 MedQA (2-Shot) | 49.6 | 65.4 AGIEval (0-Shot) | 42.1 | 45.1 TriviaQA (5-Shot) | 72.3 | 58.1 Arc-C (10-Shot) | 78.3 | 90.7 Arc-E (10-Shot) | 91.4 | 97.0…
Re: Gemma 2: Improving Open Language Models at a Practical Size [pdf]
#30Phi-3 blow this out of the water. Benchmark | Gemma 2 (9B) | Phi-3 Small (7B) -----------------------------|----------------|------------------- MMLU (5-Shot) | 63.6 | 75.7 HellaSwag (5-Shot) | 49.8 | 77.0 ANLI (7-Shot) | 48.7 | 58.1 GSM-8K (8-Shot; CoT) | 59.8 | 89.6 MedQA (2-Shot) | 49.6 | 65.4 AGIEval (0-Shot) | 42.1 | 45.1 TriviaQA (5-Shot) | 72.3 | 58.1 Arc-C (10-Shot) | 78.3 | 90.7 Arc-E (10-Shot) | 91.4 | 97.0…