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Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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This is it! People have a little bit of a screwed perception of what is „fulfilling“. Yes, there are people whose only kind of fulfilling may be working for a NGO that is trying to fight climate change, save kids in poor countries of the world or clean up the ocean from plastic waste. While all of those are certainly noble goals, the vast majority of people doesn’t even shoot that high to find any kind of purpose. Mo…

I’ve had the same experience. I actually took a 40% pay cut to work somewhere where I had to actually do something, because of exhausting and depressing doing nothing was

This is the reason I think its crazy how some people claim that UBI would cause everyone to become lazy and do nothing

Nobody likes doing nothing

Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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I did some volunteer mentoring for a while. Burnout was the most common complaint. However, once you dug into each complaint of burnout you discovered that “burnout” has become a catch-all term for a very wide range of feelings. Before that experience I assumed everyone defined burnout as a severe state of deep distress and lack of energy following extended periods of intense stress, frustration, overwork, and/or lac…

At one point in my career, I've been a CTO of a startup company. I worked 12-14 hours a day, including weekends. My relationship with the CEO was bad, and he actively added "senior tech leads" to the company to compete with me.

One day, I arrived to the office, and stood in the hallway across our office door. I froze. I couldn't physically move. I stood there, unable to move, for 2.5 hours until someone passed by and saw me.

I'm sharing this story so that readers may have an idea of what severe burnout may look like. It's not that I didn't want to move - I couldn't, my brain didn't let me. I lost my ability to control my body at that point.

Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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Why did you think being a hard worker regardless of reward is an honorable trait? I don't mean any disrespect but when i read sentences like that all that pops into my head is "sucker"

There are plenty of indirect reasons to working hard. You are theoretically less likely to be fired. You gain a solid reputation among colleagues. You get better at the job which make is easier to get hired elsewhere. Also your conscience plays into it. You feel guilty if you slack off. And there is ego, people want to be the best, or at least not the worst.

Okay to be clear, the "without reward" is the part that makes you a sucker not hard work by itself

Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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I did some volunteer mentoring for a while. Burnout was the most common complaint. However, once you dug into each complaint of burnout you discovered that “burnout” has become a catch-all term for a very wide range of feelings. Before that experience I assumed everyone defined burnout as a severe state of deep distress and lack of energy following extended periods of intense stress, frustration, overwork, and/or lac…

At one point in my career, I've been a CTO of a startup company. I worked 12-14 hours a day, including weekends. My relationship with the CEO was bad, and he actively added "senior tech leads" to the company to compete with me. One day, I arrived to the office, and stood in the hallway across our office door. I froze. I couldn't physically move. I stood there, unable to move, for 2.5 hours until someone passed by and…

I don't think that'd still classify as burnout, honestly.

That's more like a stress response from getting into the range of an abuser. I'm sure it was extremely traumatic for you, I just don't think anyone could classify such a response as burnout

Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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I did some volunteer mentoring for a while. Burnout was the most common complaint. However, once you dug into each complaint of burnout you discovered that “burnout” has become a catch-all term for a very wide range of feelings. Before that experience I assumed everyone defined burnout as a severe state of deep distress and lack of energy following extended periods of intense stress, frustration, overwork, and/or lac…

Its 11,000 responses.

And They didnt ask people if they felt burnt out.

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At one point in my career, I've been a CTO of a startup company. I worked 12-14 hours a day, including weekends. My relationship with the CEO was bad, and he actively added "senior tech leads" to the company to compete with me. One day, I arrived to the office, and stood in the hallway across our office door. I froze. I couldn't physically move. I stood there, unable to move, for 2.5 hours until someone passed by and…

I don't think that'd still classify as burnout, honestly. That's more like a stress response from getting into the range of an abuser. I'm sure it was extremely traumatic for you, I just don't think anyone could classify such a response as burnout

Stress causes burnout.

What they described would still be burnout. You’d need other features to get to abusive and a trauma response.

Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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At one point in my career, I've been a CTO of a startup company. I worked 12-14 hours a day, including weekends. My relationship with the CEO was bad, and he actively added "senior tech leads" to the company to compete with me. One day, I arrived to the office, and stood in the hallway across our office door. I froze. I couldn't physically move. I stood there, unable to move, for 2.5 hours until someone passed by and…

I don't think that'd still classify as burnout, honestly. That's more like a stress response from getting into the range of an abuser. I'm sure it was extremely traumatic for you, I just don't think anyone could classify such a response as burnout

Noted, I never delved deeper into the definitions - it was hard enough as it happened.

If that's not burnout, then I don't know what is a burnout, apparently. I never even considered that.

Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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Most people don't have "fulfilling" jobs. They have a paycheck. A very small percentage of Americans, let alone those around the world, have the privilege of analyzing how their job makes them feel. I get paid great money to play with computers. My father was an elementary school janitor.

The survey covered multiple countries, shockingly even India, 11k responses. Everyone, by default, knows how they feel. Burnout is something that happens to you no matter what you care about.

Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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Why did you think being a hard worker regardless of reward is an honorable trait? I don't mean any disrespect but when i read sentences like that all that pops into my head is "sucker"

because the "regardless of reward" thing is supposed to be temporary until a decent human being above you realizes that you should be rewarded. If we all just did the absolute minimum then society and humanity would never get anywhere because you'd never know who a good worker is.

>If we all just did the absolute minimum then society and humanity would never get anywhere because you'd never know who a good worker is.

Maybe that's why it's not getting anywhere compared to how it should be ;)

Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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You're free to make judgements about my work all day. Now come on, give me an argument for why it is patronizing. Stop implying it.

I guess because if you haven't done it, how would you know if it's fulfilling?

I'm not claiming it is though, only comparing relative degrees of alienation from the outcome of your work.
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