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This is just another form of victim blaming.
US EPA Enforcement and Compliance on Apple Fabrication
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#192The author of this has been on a crusade against Apple for years, stemming from an incident that was probably hypochondria. They've outright lied about multiple incidents (see https://twitter.com/shantinix/status/1433297575914971136 ), and I would very strongly doubt any new claims made. For example, a spot check of one of the claims has them currently saying "Still, Gjovik’s limited testing returned results showing…
It's really hard to "catch" these things in the moment. I work in chemical plants and there are tons of huge releases of extremely toxic gases all the time, which I can often smell from my apartment. I know what they are by smell because I manufacture them myself. Proper continuous monitoring for a broad range of chemicals would cost about $1 million per monitoring station and we'd need to build them along the perime…
I don't know anything about this... I'm curious how small could the monitoring station be. Could it be something that could be mobile, like in a trailer or cargo container format, and dropped off at a site temporarily and moved.
Re: US EPA Enforcement and Compliance on Apple Fabrication
#193The author of this has been on a crusade against Apple for years, stemming from an incident that was probably hypochondria. They've outright lied about multiple incidents (see https://twitter.com/shantinix/status/1433297575914971136 ), and I would very strongly doubt any new claims made. For example, a spot check of one of the claims has them currently saying "Still, Gjovik’s limited testing returned results showing…
It's really hard to "catch" these things in the moment. I work in chemical plants and there are tons of huge releases of extremely toxic gases all the time, which I can often smell from my apartment. I know what they are by smell because I manufacture them myself. Proper continuous monitoring for a broad range of chemicals would cost about $1 million per monitoring station and we'd need to build them along the perime…
News articles about the user behind this twitter account have gone through a few rounds on HN in the past: [1][2][3][4][5] and she has a personal blog documenting her various legal battles with Apple: [6]
1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28477392
2: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28811746
3: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28830236
4: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35778735
Re: US EPA Enforcement and Compliance on Apple Fabrication
#194This is pretty awful. And if Apple , with all their supposed green credentials, are the ones dumping toxic industrial chemicals into the environment in the middle of Santa Clara, you can only imagine what the rest of the industry is like.
> with all their supposed green credentials
And their oft lionised 60B$ cash reserves.
Re: US EPA Enforcement and Compliance on Apple Fabrication
#195Here's the whole thread "unrolled", including the EPA report: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1805006150410162322.html
Thanks for this. It's amazing how useless twitter links have become to signed out viewers.
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#197I wonder why this post was flagged.
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#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's really hard to "catch" these things in the moment. I work in chemical plants and there are tons of huge releases of extremely toxic gases all the time, which I can often smell from my apartment. I know what they are by smell because I manufacture them myself. Proper continuous monitoring for a broad range of chemicals would cost about $1 million per monitoring station and we'd need to build them along the perime…
I don't know anything about this... I'm curious how small could the monitoring station be. Could it be something that could be mobile, like in a trailer or cargo container format, and dropped off at a site temporarily and moved.
Yes, there are vehicle and even aircraft-mounted options but typically a comprehensive station would be the size of a decently large shed / medium hauling trailer. Here you can browse a set of photographs[0] of one of the rare "comprehensive" air pollution monitoring stations in Texas.
0: https://www17.tceq.texas.gov/tamis/index.cfm?fuseaction=repo...
Re: US EPA Enforcement and Compliance on Apple Fabrication
#199The author of this has been on a crusade against Apple for years, stemming from an incident that was probably hypochondria. They've outright lied about multiple incidents (see https://twitter.com/shantinix/status/1433297575914971136 ), and I would very strongly doubt any new claims made. For example, a spot check of one of the claims has them currently saying "Still, Gjovik’s limited testing returned results showing…
It's really hard to "catch" these things in the moment. I work in chemical plants and there are tons of huge releases of extremely toxic gases all the time, which I can often smell from my apartment. I know what they are by smell because I manufacture them myself. Proper continuous monitoring for a broad range of chemicals would cost about $1 million per monitoring station and we'd need to build them along the perime…
You at all concerned about your exposure to random chemicals?
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#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
ONE of her beeves is indeed based on this, but I believe she has also sued Apple for unrelated labor related issues. I agree that the EPA's report is based on first hand observations; OTOH I would not characterize the findings quite the same way she did. There certainly were a significant number of violations, but I don't have the context of knowing how many such violations are found in other facilities of comparable…
If I'm working and living next to a place with a ton of EPA violations around weird chemicals that may be dangerous, what good is it to me whether some other company elsewhere has a similar number of violations?
Yes, but the question to me is how dangerous the dangerous is.
As a comparison, if you look at a single health inspection for a single restaurant, e.g.: https://stgencep.sccgov.org/sccdineout/INSPECTIONREPORT_DADW... is that a safe place to eat or not? Do you insist on only eating in restaurants that have a score of 100?