Self-driving Waymos secure final clearance for expansion beyond S.F

Post by dntrkv » Sat, Jun 22, 2024, 1:47 AM UTC

Me1000 wrote: post #14

seeknotfind wrote: post #3

Wooooooo! Goodbye Lyft and Uber. Honestly, I get a bag driver, use the AI for a while. Feels too sterile, switch back, get some interesting drivers. Waymo has everything going for it but good company. Love it.

Unfortunately Waymo still wont operate on freeways or at SFO. But I long for the day when I can take a Waymo between SF and Berkley or to SFO, those are my most frequent reasons to call a Lyft.

Post by notatoad » Sat, Jun 22, 2024, 1:51 AM UTC

firloop wrote: post #18

tanvach wrote: post #7

We recently started using Waymo more often: - Quality of Lyft and Uber rides have gone down significantly. - Consistently spacious, clean and quiet cars. You know what you'll get. - AC always works and not up to the whim of the driver. - No chatty driver to disturb our sleeping baby. Negatives: - Rides have usually 10% mark up over Lyft and Uber. - Pick up and drop off tend to be a small walk from requested locations…

A rarely discussed negative to Waymo is that they drive slower than human drivers. Anecdotally they can be 10-25% slower than the rest of traffic, and it's not uncommon to see human drivers do unsafe moves to pass a Waymo.

Post by labrador » Sat, Jun 22, 2024, 1:56 AM UTC

wepple wrote: post #167

labrador wrote: post #116

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That's reassuring to me. I don't know why Waymo doesn't reassure safety conscious people like me by being explicit about this. As it stands, as a computer programmer and professional driver at different times in my career, whose seen a lot of unforeseen bugs and weird driving situations, I'm not putting my life in the hands of this software.

> I'm not putting my life in the hands of this software. If you were a professional driver, you know you put your life in the hands of people right? The average person is a pretty terrible driver. I’ll take a safely trained machine all day every day.

Post by AlotOfReading » Sat, Jun 22, 2024, 2:07 AM UTC

SheinhardtWigCo wrote: post #10

ortusdux wrote: post #5

I'm still surprised that they, and most of their competitors, chose to start off in such difficult to navigate regions. I would have started off in a retirement community or the like.

They kinda did that - they were operating in the suburbs around Phoenix AZ for years before launching in SF. Not operating in difficult areas would slow them down because progress in this domain is bound by the breadth of edge cases encountered in the wild.

Post by AlotOfReading » Sat, Jun 22, 2024, 2:14 AM UTC

lopkeny12ko wrote: post #158

verdverm wrote: post #135

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It's an example of how easy it is to find some numbers they posted, countering that they "never" do I'm not trying to answer your question because I don't want to put in the time with someone who seems to only want to be combative in conversation

Case in point. Plugging your ears and shouting does not invalidate the question. These are very basic questions that, if Waymo were at all confident about their technology, would not hesitate to answer. And most of these are just simple numbers! Like stating, the number of miles per intervention is 10. Yet that number is nowhere to be found from Waymo's press relations department.