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Internet Archive forced to remove 500k books after publishers' court win

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#101

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I don't think you know what communism is.

It's a tiresome rhetorical device these days to pretend Communism only has one narrow meaning.

It's equally tiresome to pretend everything one doesn't like is communism, when communism has been operationally dead for decades.

Re: Internet Archive forced to remove 500k books after publishers' court win

#104

There is no greater folly of contemporary human society than the purposeful restriction of such vast and easily shareable repositories of knowledge. Perhaps these schemes made sense in the past but with the advent of the internet and independent groups willing to fund all hosting fees, we should move to models of publishing that do not require this restriction of information. Library genesis exists but necessarily mu…

Why should an author be forced to give away their work for free?

They can already choose to give it away for free if they wish. We already have the Creative Commons licenses, and there are many open textbook projects.

Re: Internet Archive forced to remove 500k books after publishers' court win

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Should it be legal for IA to offer this, especially for older and out of print books? Yes, almost certainly.

Is it legal? No, not as the law currently stands. You can support Robin Hood, but you shouldn't be shocked when Robin Hood is caught and sent to jail. It was a mistake and a huge legal risk for IA to do this. It could easily have brought down the whole organisation, and all that they've archived to date.

I wish a fraction of the people who are upset about this would actually commit a portion of their time to lobbying and organising for copyright reform. Copyright terms are too damn long, by half a century and then some. This isn't some iron law of nature, this could easily be changed if there were enough of a push for it.

Re: Internet Archive forced to remove 500k books after publishers' court win

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Is any word a number?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numeral_(linguistics) I'm not sure what your point was, but mine is that it doesn't necessarily represent a significant amount.

Oh, I thought you were making a non-sequitur semantic context shift, my mistake.

Re: Internet Archive forced to remove 500k books after publishers' court win

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"Such a system exists. You can publish a book and give it away freely. But few do. This is book communism and fails for the same reasons as regular communism. It is in nobody’s interest to do any hard work. If you don’t reward great effort, virtually nobody provides it." Why does open source / free software exist then? "Nobody puts in hard word if it's not rewarded" hasnt the cURL guy been maintaining cURL/libcurl fo…

Open source covers a very tiny set of use cases for software. How many paid products have an open source competitor at all? How many have a credible competitor (GIMP isn’t a credible alternative to PhotoShop for the people who pay for it for example). It is far from rendering paid software obsolete. And not nobody. Virtually nobody. Yes open source exists. Out of the hundreds of devs I have worked with, I know one wh…

> GIMP isn’t a credible alternative to PhotoShop for the people who pay for it for example

Weird take. GIMP's been good enough for professional work for more than a decade, and lots of professionals use it. I paid for Paint Shop Pro ages ago, because it was better than Photoshop for my use cases. GIMP progressed and became better than PSP for the same. I've used it ever since. It's even been used for major motion pictures.

In the same way that software is eating the world, Free and Open Source software is eating software. Every year it does more and better. If GIMP doesn't work for your use case today, it likely will tomorrow, or the day after.

Some open source tools, like Blender, like Linux, exist at the top of their respective foodchains. Proprietary tools are working to try to compete with them.

Re: Internet Archive forced to remove 500k books after publishers' court win

#108

There is no greater folly of contemporary human society than the purposeful restriction of such vast and easily shareable repositories of knowledge. Perhaps these schemes made sense in the past but with the advent of the internet and independent groups willing to fund all hosting fees, we should move to models of publishing that do not require this restriction of information. Library genesis exists but necessarily mu…

Why should an author be forced to give away their work for free? They can already choose to give it away for free if they wish. We already have the Creative Commons licenses, and there are many open textbook projects.

Dead authors can't choose to give away their works, they're dead. Yet someone still owns the rights 60 years later.

Re: Internet Archive forced to remove 500k books after publishers' court win

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What I will never understand is why this is needed at all. The books that I do find interesting I buy them. Sure, you can bypass paper by having ebooks. But is it really a replacement for a printed book? There is nothing like a printed book. No power needed, nor devices needed, you can go back to any page, any chapter instantly and if you have stomach even write on them. On the other side having the possibility to just quickly browse through a digital file to check if that title is of your interest or if it will serve you well if a technical book is invaluable. I have literally saved myself hours and money from not purchasing titles that turned out to be not of my interest. Imagine paying ridiculous amounts of money for technical books that then you find out the way a topic is approached is not really for you. Go ahead and check prices of for example Springer, Wiley, Addison Wesley books. And if out of print you pay a leg for a second hand one, effectively limiting access to knowledge only to people with big pockets.
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