Israel airport security demands access to tourists' private email accounts

Post by Canada » Tue, Jun 05, 2012, 11:06 PM UTC

pyre wrote: post #30

AJ007 wrote: post #18

This just sounds like an attempt to keep individuals of certain backgrounds out of a country. Ask a lot of invasive information and then refuse them entry. Entry information such as this should be aggregated in to travel warnings given about a particular country to minimize wasting a citizen time & money. Stories on how foreign countries treat privacy are important. American companies, in some part, have turned place…

By the way, what country is known for harassing Americans at their border: Canada. I'd rather travel to Mexico in the middle of a drug war. I've had the opposite experience. As an American citizen, I've gotten a worse experience going Canada => US than vice-versa. I've personally only been harassed once by Canadian border patrol, and at one point I was crossing the border every day for work (note: This is without any…

Post by marcf » Tue, Jun 05, 2012, 11:12 PM UTC

nyellin wrote: post #46

makomk wrote: post #38

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What nyellin means by "Israel allows civil unions" is that, starting in 2011, they actually allow a man and a woman who aren't religious and who can prove this to the satisfaction of the religious authorities to get married. Prior to that it was actually impossible for many heterosexual Israeli citizens to get married within Israel because they were only considered Jewish by Israeli law and not by the Jewish religiou…

No, I deliberately used the term "civil union", not "marriage" for that reason. The distinction is hairy, so I'm just going to quote Wikipedia: Israeli law recognizes same-sex marriages performed elsewhere... It does not, however, allow same-sex couples to marry on Israeli soil. Civil marriage doesn't exist in Israel for heterosexual couples, either, (except where both spouses are non-Jewish) and therefore only a mar…

Post by marcf » Tue, Jun 05, 2012, 11:15 PM UTC

davidf18 wrote: post #43

SODaniel wrote: post #28

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Still no justification to require overly invasive security measures such as requiring access to personal communication etc. Also completely useless for anything than purely 'selecting' who you let in since I am going to assume a terrorist wouldn't exactly use terrorist185@hotmail.com and then hand the email over when asked.

I wouldn't second guess Israeli security measures...unlike TSA, these are highly trained people who undoubtedly have military training since with few exceptions (Arab or Orthodox Jewish) not only men but women are drafted for military service. If you don't like the security measures then don't go there.

Post by nyellin » Tue, Jun 05, 2012, 11:18 PM UTC

marcf wrote: post #63

nyellin wrote: post #46

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No, I deliberately used the term "civil union", not "marriage" for that reason. The distinction is hairy, so I'm just going to quote Wikipedia: Israeli law recognizes same-sex marriages performed elsewhere... It does not, however, allow same-sex couples to marry on Israeli soil. Civil marriage doesn't exist in Israel for heterosexual couples, either, (except where both spouses are non-Jewish) and therefore only a mar…

Your posts which highlight LGBT rights while completely ignoring the elephant in the room (the 40+ year occupation affecting millions) fits well with what is described in this New York Times editorial as Pinkwashing: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/23/opinion/pinkwashing-and-is...

Post by nivertech » Tue, Jun 05, 2012, 11:45 PM UTC

toomuchtodo wrote: post #6

pavel_lishin wrote: post #5

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Well, the penalty for disallowing access seems to be a refusal to allow you into the country. I imagine that giving access to a legitimate but old and useless e-mail address would be taken as a refusal, and you'd just get back on your plane and go home.

It appears that even giving them your real email account will get you refused from the country. As a US citizen, I'm disappointed in Israel, and would prefer even less of my tax dollars are used to support them after this.