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Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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Just the sort of personality type that we need leading the most potentially dangerous new technology in the past 50 years.

While I get the sentiment, things have a way of working out. Maybe he is actually the best person to do it...no one knows who the best person for an undefined situation will be.

Is the best person for any position (especially one with tremendous implications for the future of humanity) someone with his character?

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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When you or I lie on a resume the background check knocks us out of the job. But when the CEO lies on a resume, nothing happens.

> when the CEO lies on a resume, nothing happens I think it’s abundantly clear that if OpenAI fails, powerful people will face prosecution. It’s an uncomfortable but unavoidable part of our justice system that we don’t like to prosecute people until they’re no longer winners.

Yep, Elizabeth Holmes was bulletproof until the cracks started to show through. Same with Lance Armstrong, and many others.

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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Just the sort of personality type that we need leading the most potentially dangerous new technology in the past 50 years.

While I get the sentiment, things have a way of working out. Maybe he is actually the best person to do it...no one knows who the best person for an undefined situation will be.

There is no "plot armor" in the real world, protecting humans from having bad things happening

Things do not, in fact, have a way of "working out"

If we don't want bad things to happen, we have to actively stop bad things from happening

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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How do you miss the main point? The SPAC materials are immaterial until an acquisition is made. Plenty of things to not like about Altman but this is not one of them.

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Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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Normal folks get fired for "mistakes" like this. Oligarchs don't.

What mistake? It’s an immaterial S1 for a SPAC. I don’t believe anyone including the advisors filing this would get in trouble.

That mistake is that it's not true. Altman has earned a name for himself in the truth-telling/transparency department. He wasn't briefly sacked for his fashion sense.

In the article they quote Marc Fagel, who previously served as the regional director for the SEC's office in San Francisco:

"Misstating the qualifications of executives is something the SEC takes seriously,"

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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> when the CEO lies on a resume, nothing happens I think it’s abundantly clear that if OpenAI fails, powerful people will face prosecution. It’s an uncomfortable but unavoidable part of our justice system that we don’t like to prosecute people until they’re no longer winners.

It's far from clear. Dozens of finance executives wiped a decade worth of economic growth off the United States the year before I graduated high school. My generation will never recover. They left their jobs with more money that I'll make in an entire lifetime. None went to prison.

If someone in your generation (graduating high school 2009) obtained in demand credentials or skills, then they should have reaped enormous returns from 2013 to 2024.

The only people who really “lost” in 2008 were those who were overleveraged from going into debt for houses or education, and then had to default due to income loss in 2008 to 2011 or so. Or those who panic sold all their equities.

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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What mistake? It’s an immaterial S1 for a SPAC. I don’t believe anyone including the advisors filing this would get in trouble.

That mistake is that it's not true. Altman has earned a name for himself in the truth-telling/transparency department. He wasn't briefly sacked for his fashion sense. In the article they quote Marc Fagel, who previously served as the regional director for the SEC's office in San Francisco: "Misstating the qualifications of executives is something the SEC takes seriously,"

Ok please remind me when the SEC takes action.

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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post #63

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While I get the sentiment, things have a way of working out. Maybe he is actually the best person to do it...no one knows who the best person for an undefined situation will be.

There is no "plot armor" in the real world, protecting humans from having bad things happening Things do not, in fact, have a way of "working out" If we don't want bad things to happen, we have to actively stop bad things from happening

Depends on how rich you are.

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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> when the CEO lies on a resume, nothing happens I think it’s abundantly clear that if OpenAI fails, powerful people will face prosecution. It’s an uncomfortable but unavoidable part of our justice system that we don’t like to prosecute people until they’re no longer winners.

Yep, Elizabeth Holmes was bulletproof until the cracks started to show through. Same with Lance Armstrong, and many others.

Was Holmes ever bulletproof? Anyone with scientific experience was calling BS on her from the beginning due to the reality of current technology and physics.

I remember only knowing her because there were posts on this website calling her out very early on.

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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post #22

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Actually we moderate less, not more, when YC or a YC startup is the story. This is the #1 rule of HN moderation and has been since pg first explained it to me on the morning he started showing me how to moderate HN. If anyone wants to read about this, there are ten years' worth of past explanations here: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... . It looks like a mod downweighted this story but…

I dunno if it’s outrage-worthy, but the silent evolution of the YC blog post on Sam’s departure was weird , and nobody involved—particularly pg in his recent comments meant to be definitive—has managed to explain why that went down the way it did. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38384090

It's worth noting that `dang` is one of the people who noted the evolution happening.
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