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Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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Actually we moderate less, not more, when YC or a YC startup is the story. This is the #1 rule of HN moderation and has been since pg first explained it to me on the morning he started showing me how to moderate HN. If anyone wants to read about this, there are ten years' worth of past explanations here: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... . It looks like a mod downweighted this story but…

> It's hard to tell if there's any there-there but, given how this sort of story usually works, the odds seem low. Not at all. The source links the relevant SEC filing. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1849056/000110465921... On page 111 the false claim is plainly visible: “ Prior to joining OpenAI, Mr. Altman served as President of Y Combinator from February 2014 until March 2019. Mr. Altman currently serves…

Crisis of trust in Altman reflects back on Y Combinator. They have significant financial motivation to downplay his behavior regardless of any moderators claims.

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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post #25

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> I am not sure what the news is The news is that lying on those filings is a federal crime and can lead to jail time (for normal people who are actually subject to law).

People don't go to jail for errors like these.

Normal folks get fired for "mistakes" like this. Oligarchs don't.

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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post #22

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Actually we moderate less, not more, when YC or a YC startup is the story. This is the #1 rule of HN moderation and has been since pg first explained it to me on the morning he started showing me how to moderate HN. If anyone wants to read about this, there are ten years' worth of past explanations here: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... . It looks like a mod downweighted this story but…

> It's hard to tell if there's any there-there but, given how this sort of story usually works, the odds seem low. Not at all. The source links the relevant SEC filing. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1849056/000110465921... On page 111 the false claim is plainly visible: “ Prior to joining OpenAI, Mr. Altman served as President of Y Combinator from February 2014 until March 2019. Mr. Altman currently serves…

Oh, I meant false claims about HN moderation, like the GP comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40711123 ("The mods suppress anything that makes YC or anything they invest in look bad"). That wasn't just completely made up, it's the exact opposite of the truth.

My comment originally included that explicitly, but I was trying to edit it down a bit and thought this would be clear from the context. Since it wasn't, I've added an edit there now.

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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post #22
post #9

This is going to fall off the front page very quickly, just watch. The mods suppress anything that makes YC or anything they invest in look bad

Actually we moderate less, not more, when YC or a YC startup is the story. This is the #1 rule of HN moderation and has been since pg first explained it to me on the morning he started showing me how to moderate HN. If anyone wants to read about this, there are ten years' worth of past explanations here: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... . It looks like a mod downweighted this story but…

I dunno if it’s outrage-worthy, but the silent evolution of the YC blog post on Sam’s departure was weird, and nobody involved—particularly pg in his recent comments meant to be definitive—has managed to explain why that went down the way it did.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38384090

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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post #33

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> It's hard to tell if there's any there-there but, given how this sort of story usually works, the odds seem low. Not at all. The source links the relevant SEC filing. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1849056/000110465921... On page 111 the false claim is plainly visible: “ Prior to joining OpenAI, Mr. Altman served as President of Y Combinator from February 2014 until March 2019. Mr. Altman currently serves…

Oh, I meant false claims about HN moderation, like the GP comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40711123 ("The mods suppress anything that makes YC or anything they invest in look bad"). That wasn't just completely made up, it's the exact opposite of the truth. My comment originally included that explicitly, but I was trying to edit it down a bit and thought this would be clear from the context. Since it wasn…

You called the story “flimsy.” How so?

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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post #27
post #9

This is going to fall off the front page very quickly, just watch. The mods suppress anything that makes YC or anything they invest in look bad

The post was moderated within 10 minutes of being submitted: https://news.social-protocols.org/stats?id=40710417

This tool is amazing. Thank you for sharing it!

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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post #33

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> It's hard to tell if there's any there-there but, given how this sort of story usually works, the odds seem low. Not at all. The source links the relevant SEC filing. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1849056/000110465921... On page 111 the false claim is plainly visible: “ Prior to joining OpenAI, Mr. Altman served as President of Y Combinator from February 2014 until March 2019. Mr. Altman currently serves…

Oh, I meant false claims about HN moderation, like the GP comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40711123 ("The mods suppress anything that makes YC or anything they invest in look bad"). That wasn't just completely made up, it's the exact opposite of the truth. My comment originally included that explicitly, but I was trying to edit it down a bit and thought this would be clear from the context. Since it wasn…

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Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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post #33

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> It's hard to tell if there's any there-there but, given how this sort of story usually works, the odds seem low. Not at all. The source links the relevant SEC filing. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1849056/000110465921... On page 111 the false claim is plainly visible: “ Prior to joining OpenAI, Mr. Altman served as President of Y Combinator from February 2014 until March 2019. Mr. Altman currently serves…

Oh, I meant false claims about HN moderation, like the GP comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40711123 ("The mods suppress anything that makes YC or anything they invest in look bad"). That wasn't just completely made up, it's the exact opposite of the truth. My comment originally included that explicitly, but I was trying to edit it down a bit and thought this would be clear from the context. Since it wasn…

> it's the exact opposite of the truth.

One can hardly call it the exact opposite of the truth if the feared downweighting of this post actually happened.

It's commendable that it was corrected and that you are attempting to be transparent. But, it sure creates the appearance of a self-protective attempt to moderate.

Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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post #23

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You predicted it. Already on page 3. Algorithmic or not, we'll never know.

We answer questions about this kind of thing all the time (literally many times a day), both on the site and via email (hn@ycombinator.com). There's no question like this you can't find out the answer to. Whether you want the answer, or like the answer, or choose to believe the answer, are other questions.

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Re: Sam Altman is not on YC's board. So why claim to be its chair?

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post #25

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People don't go to jail for errors like these.

Normal folks get fired for "mistakes" like this. Oligarchs don't.

What mistake? It’s an immaterial S1 for a SPAC. I don’t believe anyone including the advisors filing this would get in trouble.
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