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Htmx 2.0.0 has been released

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Re: Htmx 2.0.0 has been released

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Post by kyrra »

Devasta wrote: post #16

HTMX is like a glimpse into the road not taken, where HTML is the main language of the web instead of JS. Sometimes the grass really is greener on the other side, and I hope as an industry we make the switch.

I believe he makes some good arguments that we really still need both, but HTML could be more powerful and allow for less JS.

This is a good essay on the topic: https://htmx.org/essays/when-to-use-hypermedia/

Definitely one place htmx can be abused is oob-swap: https://htmx.org/attributes/hx-swap-oob/, which allows any given HTMX request to replace any part of the page. It sort of destroys the concept of locality of concern that HTMX pushes for.

Re: Htmx 2.0.0 has been released

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Post by lenkite »

recursivedoubts wrote: post #2

hey folks, i'm the creator of htmx this isn't much of a feature upgrade, but we took the opportunity to clean up a few things and drop IE support, which will help us slim down the library over time hopefully it's an easy upgrade for most htmx users, upgrade guide is here: https://htmx.org/migration-guide-htmx-1/ happy to answer any questions

What is your opinion on https://github.com/unpoly/unpoly as a competitor ?

Re: Htmx 2.0.0 has been released

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Post by recursivedoubts »

lenkite wrote: post #22
recursivedoubts wrote: post #2

hey folks, i'm the creator of htmx this isn't much of a feature upgrade, but we took the opportunity to clean up a few things and drop IE support, which will help us slim down the library over time hopefully it's an easy upgrade for most htmx users, upgrade guide is here: https://htmx.org/migration-guide-htmx-1/ happy to answer any questions

What is your opinion on https://github.com/unpoly/unpoly as a competitor ?

unpoly is a great library that sets the standard for progressive enhancement

i often recommend it for people that want a more "batteries included" hypermedia-oriented library

Re: Htmx 2.0.0 has been released

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Post by recursivedoubts »

dpe82 wrote: post #20
recursivedoubts wrote: post #2

hey folks, i'm the creator of htmx this isn't much of a feature upgrade, but we took the opportunity to clean up a few things and drop IE support, which will help us slim down the library over time hopefully it's an easy upgrade for most htmx users, upgrade guide is here: https://htmx.org/migration-guide-htmx-1/ happy to answer any questions

Thanks for all your hard work; htmx is a breath of fresh air and an escape from the morass of needless complexity. My only question: how can I get a set of those sweet sweet floppy disks?

working on it, need to see if the disk guy will dropship

Re: Htmx 2.0.0 has been released

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Post by recursivedoubts »

llmblockchain wrote: post #19
recursivedoubts wrote: post #2

hey folks, i'm the creator of htmx this isn't much of a feature upgrade, but we took the opportunity to clean up a few things and drop IE support, which will help us slim down the library over time hopefully it's an easy upgrade for most htmx users, upgrade guide is here: https://htmx.org/migration-guide-htmx-1/ happy to answer any questions

Does this release have head-support built in or still requires an extension? I thought 2.0 was going to release with head support...

we went back and forth on it but ultimately concluded that it bloated the core too much so we kept it as an extension

Re: Htmx 2.0.0 has been released

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Post by nickpeterson »

recursivedoubts wrote: post #2

hey folks, i'm the creator of htmx this isn't much of a feature upgrade, but we took the opportunity to clean up a few things and drop IE support, which will help us slim down the library over time hopefully it's an easy upgrade for most htmx users, upgrade guide is here: https://htmx.org/migration-guide-htmx-1/ happy to answer any questions

Another, “I really like htmx” comment, currently using it for an internal corporate webapp, it’s great.

Re: Htmx 2.0.0 has been released

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Post by oblio »

Devasta wrote: post #16

HTMX is like a glimpse into the road not taken, where HTML is the main language of the web instead of JS. Sometimes the grass really is greener on the other side, and I hope as an industry we make the switch.

My cynical take: this is by design. Those web committees are staffed by companies that each have their non-web platform they're pushing (or were, until it died, see Microsoft), so even the most well meaning members are somehow contorted into compromises that make the web as a platform a bad technical choice in terms of actual design, but the best one in terms of flexibility and of course ubiquity.

It's completely stupid HTML, by default, doesn't have basic controls found in EVERY UI toolkit since circa 1980. The standard examples being ListView and TreeView.

Re: Htmx 2.0.0 has been released

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Post by recursivedoubts »

kyrra wrote: post #17

I thought the 2.0.0 release was a bit of a joke from the BigSkyDev conference, as he was doing stuff like this: https://twitter.com/htmx_org/status/1799661735781261592 There's even some sweet ascii art on the disk: https://twitter.com/jcs224/status/1799586838161621339 Great to see the continued love of this framework. (don't throw anything at me)

released exclusively on floppy disk for the first week! :)

Re: Htmx 2.0.0 has been released

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Post by highpost »

recursivedoubts wrote: post #26
llmblockchain wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does this release have head-support built in or still requires an extension? I thought 2.0 was going to release with head support...

we went back and forth on it but ultimately concluded that it bloated the core too much so we kept it as an extension

https://htmx.org/extensions/head-support/

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