Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf] • Hacker News Board

Re: Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]

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Post by sudosysgen » Wed, Jun 12, 2024, 11:24 PM UTC

venatiodecorus wrote: post #57

sudosysgen wrote: post #51

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Is it? On the other side of the equation, there are tons of new Chinese Android OEMs: Huawei, Xiaomi, Oppo and friends, ZTE, Lenovo, Haier, Hisense. AFAIK all of these except ZTE and Huawei sell in the US, often under different brands.

FWIW I've never actually seen anyone using any of these except ZTE (I'm in northeastern US).

They do tend to sell under different names - Lenovo sells as Motorola, and Oppo sells as OnePlus. Before the ban, I'd also see a few Huaweis, also in the northeast. In Canada, Huawei used to be fairly common and TCL is still carried by many carriers as a budget option.

Re: Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]

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Post by duskwuff » Thu, Jun 13, 2024, 5:11 AM UTC

afavour wrote: post #17

joshstrange wrote: post #11

Going through those screenshots show just how stark the UI (not to mention UX) between iOS and Android was (is?). While I wouldn't relish going back to early iOS it still looks clean and polished vs the Android UI in the picture which is all sharp corners and UI that has no consistency or through-line.

Early Android UI was such a clusterfuck. Not surprising really given that it started as a BlackBerry-like UI then pivoted hard when the iPhone was launched. They also weren’t really in the position to finely curate their app collection so just about any shoddy UI got approved for the store. And then Google dedicated an entire version (3) to tablets only, leaving phones with a rapidly aging v2 UI for far longer than t…

> Early Android UI was such a clusterfuck. Not surprising really given that it started as a BlackBerry-like UI then pivoted hard when the iPhone was launched.

Don't forget all the early Android phones that launched with physical controls to navigate around the screen, like the trackball on the HTC Dream or the directional pad on the Motorola Droid. It's as if they weren't quite sure touchscreen interfaces were going to take off, so they wanted to hedge their bets.

Re: Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]

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Post by duskwuff » Thu, Jun 13, 2024, 5:34 AM UTC

What I find funny about this document is how obvious it is that Samsung's prime directive, at the time, was to do whatever Apple was doing. Even when that didn't make sense for Samsung to do, like suggesting that they add streaming radio functionality to their synchronization application because iTunes had that feature (page 80).

Re: Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]

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Post by criddell » Thu, Jun 13, 2024, 11:41 AM UTC

dsalfdslfdsa wrote: post #60

criddell wrote: post #56

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So when you see me pull out my phone to snap a photo of some graffiti I like or use it to translate a sign I can't read or message my wife to let her know I'm running late, what are you thinking?

I can google pictues of interesting graffiti any time I like. Taking a picture devalues the moment. I'm not sure where you are that you can't read the signs (but have cell service), but you would be really out on a limb if that's the case and you don't have anyone to help you out. I'd honestly find it kind of pathetic to watch. If it's so important to message your wife, then it's a better idea not do it while also tr…

> I'm not sure where you are that you can't read the signs (but have cell service), but you would be really out on a limb if that's the case and you don't have anyone to help you out. I'd honestly find it kind of pathetic to watch.

I guess you don’t travel often or maybe you can read lots of different languages. I can’t so my phone is useful.

Which would you say is more pathetic - the guy and his wife trying to read a menu in a foreign language or the person standing off to the side watching and judging?

Re: Relative Evaluation Report on S1, iPhone (2010) [pdf]

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Post by dsalfdslfdsa » Thu, Jun 13, 2024, 2:08 PM UTC

criddell wrote: post #64

dsalfdslfdsa wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can google pictues of interesting graffiti any time I like. Taking a picture devalues the moment. I'm not sure where you are that you can't read the signs (but have cell service), but you would be really out on a limb if that's the case and you don't have anyone to help you out. I'd honestly find it kind of pathetic to watch. If it's so important to message your wife, then it's a better idea not do it while also tr…

> I'm not sure where you are that you can't read the signs (but have cell service), but you would be really out on a limb if that's the case and you don't have anyone to help you out. I'd honestly find it kind of pathetic to watch. I guess you don’t travel often or maybe you can read lots of different languages. I can’t so my phone is useful. Which would you say is more pathetic - the guy and his wife trying to read…

If I'm somewhere where I can't read the local language nor is there anyone to ask to translate, then menu translation is the least of my worries. How do you do anything else, like pay, or arrange transport or accomodation? I would certainly judge if someone tried to achieve all of those things by waving a phone around and gesticulating at people.

It's a neat feature, don't get me wrong, but a complete luxury (and only works out in relatively developed countries).