Its interesting that if you are sitting on top of something valuable its great, as long as its not too valuable. At a certain point people are willing to kill and cheat for something really valuable, and then if you are sitting on top of it, you're fucked.
Mexico’s anti-avocado militias
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#22The ecological and political consequences of avocados appears harsh. The article touches on both of these points. But I have no idea how global consumption could be reduced without also causing harm.
Meat production is still significantly more resource intense, we are cutting down the rainforest to make more room for feed crops.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m not sure what other credentials an American journalist would have. Freedom of the press means everyone can be a journalist.
For some reason a lot of people think you can't be a journalist unless a corporation has blessed you. It's strange.
The corporate press went out of their way to solidify this notion. Because of course.
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#24As a Spaniard, I know México used to do it fine 50, 60, 100 years ago. Ditto with Argentina, albeit the level of violence and social issues are nowhere close to México. What happened?
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#25Avocados have high demand, high price and expire fast. They require high amounts of water to grow.
And yet some idiots want to grow these in Spain in the 2nd worst place of the country to plant these beside of the Almeria and Aragonese deserts.
And, yes, I know Spain it's highly irregular and due to the orography you can have literal deserts and green, Britain-like mountains and later Montana/Idaho like flat farmfields over very few hours by car kinda like USA.zip, but that's not the point.
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#26The ecological and political consequences of avocados appears harsh. The article touches on both of these points. But I have no idea how global consumption could be reduced without also causing harm.
Reducing consumption and demand doesn't necessarily lead to harm.
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#27Its interesting that if you are sitting on top of something valuable its great, as long as its not too valuable. At a certain point people are willing to kill and cheat for something really valuable, and then if you are sitting on top of it, you're fucked.
Something is missing in your theory. Tim Cook, Elon Musk, Sam Altman, etc. are sitting on something really valuable.
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#28The ecological and political consequences of avocados appears harsh. The article touches on both of these points. But I have no idea how global consumption could be reduced without also causing harm.
Meat production is still significantly more resource intense, we are cutting down the rainforest to make more room for feed crops.
You don't need feed crops for meat. Historically people used marginal land where crops don't grow to graze animals. (And there is a lot of marginal land, even with modern fertilizers.)
Anything else makes no economic sense.
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#29In Cherán, however, there was no such violence. Nor were there any avocados. Thirteen years ago, the town’s residents prevented corrupt officials and a local cartel from illegally cutting down native forests to make way for the crop. A group of locals took loggers hostage while others incinerated their trucks. Soon, townspeople had kicked out the police and local government, cancelled elections, and locked down the w…
This is the kind of affirmative action I can fall behind.
"new state apparatus in place. Political parties were banned, and a governing council had been elected..a military force was chartered"
Yeah, how does this work? This sounds more like civil war. Admittedly, one side of the war staying to themselves. But, also, break down of any overall government.
If Idaho suddenly did this people would freak out, would call it communism, and attack.
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#30Its interesting that if you are sitting on top of something valuable its great, as long as its not too valuable. At a certain point people are willing to kill and cheat for something really valuable, and then if you are sitting on top of it, you're fucked.
This is the resource curse in a very reduced and local setting