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Mexico’s anti-avocado militias

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Re: Mexico’s anti-avocado militias

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> We finally managed to recall the first name of our point person on the council

How do you not have at least a hand scrawled itinerary ready to prompt you?

> Uli joked about our holdup at the checkpoint, but Marcos didn’t laugh

Why were they so unaware of the severity of the situation?

Is it uncharitable to say their behavior makes me question the caliber of their journalism?

Re: Mexico’s anti-avocado militias

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> We finally managed to recall the first name of our point person on the council How do you not have at least a hand scrawled itinerary ready to prompt you? > Uli joked about our holdup at the checkpoint, but Marcos didn’t laugh Why were they so unaware of the severity of the situation? Is it uncharitable to say their behavior makes me question the caliber of their journalism?

If they're writing first for a UK audience, how they described the incident could be cultural.

I can totally imagine some UK people I know writing or speaking about an incident that way. It doesn't mean they're less aware or capable than someone who would write of the same incident differently.

Re: Mexico’s anti-avocado militias

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> We finally managed to recall the first name of our point person on the council How do you not have at least a hand scrawled itinerary ready to prompt you? > Uli joked about our holdup at the checkpoint, but Marcos didn’t laugh Why were they so unaware of the severity of the situation? Is it uncharitable to say their behavior makes me question the caliber of their journalism?

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Re: Mexico’s anti-avocado militias

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post #3
post #2

> We finally managed to recall the first name of our point person on the council How do you not have at least a hand scrawled itinerary ready to prompt you? > Uli joked about our holdup at the checkpoint, but Marcos didn’t laugh Why were they so unaware of the severity of the situation? Is it uncharitable to say their behavior makes me question the caliber of their journalism?

If they're writing first for a UK audience, how they described the incident could be cultural. I can totally imagine some UK people I know writing or speaking about an incident that way. It doesn't mean they're less aware or capable than someone who would write of the same incident differently.

I'm sorry but it objectively reads as incompetence. There's no other way to read it.

Re: Mexico’s anti-avocado militias

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> We finally managed to recall the first name of our point person on the council How do you not have at least a hand scrawled itinerary ready to prompt you? > Uli joked about our holdup at the checkpoint, but Marcos didn’t laugh Why were they so unaware of the severity of the situation? Is it uncharitable to say their behavior makes me question the caliber of their journalism?

> They squinted at the business card in a plastic sleeve that I was passing off as a press credential

If you are passing off a business card as fake press credentials, you aren’t a real journalist.

Re: Mexico’s anti-avocado militias

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In Cherán, however, there was no such violence. Nor were there any avocados. Thirteen years ago, the town’s residents prevented corrupt officials and a local cartel from illegally cutting down native forests to make way for the crop. A group of locals took loggers hostage while others incinerated their trucks. Soon, townspeople had kicked out the police and local government, cancelled elections, and locked down the whole area. A revolutionary experiment was under way. Months later, Cherán reopened with an entirely new state apparatus in place. Political parties were banned, and a governing council had been elected; a reforestation campaign was undertaken to replenish the barren hills; a military force was chartered to protect the trees and the town’s water supply; some of the country’s most advanced water filtration and recycling programmes were created. And the avocado was outlawed.

Direct action gets the goods.

Re: Mexico’s anti-avocado militias

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The ecological and political consequences of avocados appears harsh. The article touches on both of these points. But I have no idea how global consumption could be reduced without also causing harm.

> But I have no idea how global consumption could be reduced without also causing harm.

One can start by implementing democracy. And no, i don't mean plutocracy, lobbyism or other forms of cortuption.

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