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Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US

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Re: Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US

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I am exhausted switching services. please can we pick one and be done with it? How about adversarial integration? Why can't I send money from cashapp to venmo? Is the technology not there yet? I wish the post office was a bank and they hosted their own pay apps.

I think this is a US centric thing maybe because the banking infrastructure is decades behind everyone else

Re: Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US

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> How about adversarial integration? Why can't I send money from cashapp to venmo? Is the technology not there yet? The industry can't/won't manage to even solve the problem of text chat apps talking to each other, let alone money-sending apps.

On the bright side, I think getting the money-sending integration would be more politically viable, at which point we can just piggyback the messaging on top of it.

SMS and cryptocurrency have largely solved the "send info or money to anyone instantly" problem. then entities stepped in to protect their walled gardens (governments in control of financial systems, apple, facebook, google) and viola, everything is fragmented and the problem has been unsolved.

the issue was never making it happen technically, it's the entrenched power structures prioritizing money/power over actual progress.

Re: Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US

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Apple has had P2P payments for a while. Yesterday's announcement was that now you can tap to pay for those. Before, you'd have to send money via iMessage.

I think it's most likely still going to be sending money "via iMessage" (or more precisely: via a book transfer between two Green Dot Visa prepaid card accounts, addressed by an iCloud address and initiated over iMessage in UX terms).

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Re: Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US

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I think it's most likely still going to be sending money "via iMessage" (or more precisely: via a book transfer between two Green Dot Visa prepaid card accounts, addressed by an iCloud address and initiated over iMessage in UX terms).

What is new here exactly? This is AppleCash, which has been around for years.

I can pay you by tapping the top of my iPhone to the top of your iPhone. https://youtu.be/Own9MiaP57o?t=270

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In Europe people can send money from any bank to any bank through IBAN numbers (your bank account number) Not sure what's taking so long in the states

But no one wants that, bank numbers are too much hassle and typing out 34 digits is error prone. Everyone in Europe also uses Tikkie, Blik whatever else service in other countries.

When I want to send money to a friend of acquaintance, they generally show/send me a payment QR code, which contains their bank account number and amount. From what I can tell, this is typical in the Czech Republic.

Re: Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US

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Ironically, Apple just announced P2P payments. Which means this is almost certainly a temporary closure. Google will almost certainly relaunch with a new name, branding, and UX that rides on the coattails of Apple's marketing efforts, but P2P will be coming back. If you're competing with Apple, you can't just not do a thing Apple is doing.

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Re: Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US

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The post office idea makes a lot of sense to me. There are a lots of people with no bank account but could use a pay app that isn't going to screw them.

Are you saying USPS is not going to screw things up ?

I was thinking more about the usurious rates that are often charged to people who can least afford it.

Re: Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US

#68

I am exhausted switching services. please can we pick one and be done with it? How about adversarial integration? Why can't I send money from cashapp to venmo? Is the technology not there yet? I wish the post office was a bank and they hosted their own pay apps.

Have you read about the British postmaster scandal? Be careful what you wish for…

Re: Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US

#69

I am exhausted switching services. please can we pick one and be done with it? How about adversarial integration? Why can't I send money from cashapp to venmo? Is the technology not there yet? I wish the post office was a bank and they hosted their own pay apps.

Honestly, I made the mistake of looking to standardize on Google when I bought a Pixel. I got the watch some Google Home devices and they have in the following years terminated the Fit API, terminated gPay, reduce the integration to Home at this point I have no trust in Google to even maintain the basic services they offered the year prior.

Re: Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US

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If I'm understanding correctly, the difference is that it's going through VISA directly. Kind of like how you can send someone a Starbucks gift card through iMessage / Messages app, without it ever going through Apple Cash technically.

How so? It only works between two Apple Cash accounts, so it can just be a book transfer within the bank maintaining these (Green Dot), no Visa required. Or do they now allow it between two non-Apple-Cash debit cards? That would indeed require some network to work across banks.

In the case of Starbucks, they're taking advantage of an API within the Messages app, so as long as a third party implements something similar to what Starbucks is doing, I assume any other banking app could do the same, like Zelle could theoretically have their app allow you to just send cash via Messages if they implement the code needed for the Messages app. Now whether or not Apple would allow it is another story. I appreciate them gate keeping garbage from their app store, but they shouldnt just gate keep things they themselves do, its anti-competitive.
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