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Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by criddell »

anonbanker wrote: post #447
criddell wrote: post #411

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Apple does a really good job of this, then the everyday person probably shouldn't care if it's AI or not. Who cares how your flight information shows up at the right time in the right place? the only thing that should matter is that it does .

And nobody cares about how absolutely terrifying your statement truly is, because the shiny benefits obfuscate the destruction of privacy, despite Apple's reassurances.

The upsides are obvious and concrete, the downsides are mostly hypotheticals.

People already carry around a device with a GPS, camera, and microphone that has access to most of their intimate and personal communications and finances. Adding AI capabilities doesn't seem like a bridge too far, that's for sure.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by TreetopPlace »

ethbr1 wrote: post #334
TechnicolorByte wrote: post #153

Have to say, I was thoroughly impressed by what Apple showed today with all this Personal AI stuff. And it proves that the real power of consumer AI will be in the hands of the platform owners where you have most of your digital life in already (Apple or Google for messaging, mail, photos, apps; Microsoft for work and/or life). The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails and messages like settin…

> I always saw this level of personal intelligence to come about at some point, but I didn’t expect Apple to hit it out of the park so strongly. Benefit of drawing people into their ecosystem. It's the benefit of how Apple does product ownership. In contrast to Google and Microsoft. I hadn't considered it, but AI convergence is going to lay bare organizational deficiencies in a way previous revolutions didn't. Nobody…

"AI convergence is going to lay bare organizational deficiencies in a way previous revolutions didn't`'

Your quote really hit me. I trust Apple to respect my privacy when doing AI, but the thought of Microsoft or Google slurping up all my data to do remote-server AI is abhorrent. I can't see how Microsoft or Google can undo the last 10 years to fix this.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by talldayo »

skhunted wrote: post #505
doctorpangloss wrote: post #230

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I don’t follow your second to last paragraph. It’s called Apple Intelligence. If you want to use something else do so but don’t expect Apple to build its own product and let you use whatever you want for it. Clearly the goal for Apple is to eventually use its own models and be an entirely in house product.

> Clearly the goal for Apple is to eventually use its own models and be an entirely in house product.

If that turns out anything like Siri, then surely you would understand why people want a bring-your-own-model framework.

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Post by dmix »

ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #503
vjulian wrote: post #472

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Could you please explain ‘lay bare organisational deficiencies’? I ask without skepticism.

I assume they mean: expose internal corporate silos/VP-fiefdoms that don't work seamlessly together despite being marketed under the same brand

Google is quite notorious for having this issue from various blog posts and HN comments I've read.

Lots of middle management power groups that would prevent a cohesive top down vision from easily being adopted.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by theshrike79 »

MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #479
TechnicolorByte wrote: post #153

Have to say, I was thoroughly impressed by what Apple showed today with all this Personal AI stuff. And it proves that the real power of consumer AI will be in the hands of the platform owners where you have most of your digital life in already (Apple or Google for messaging, mail, photos, apps; Microsoft for work and/or life). The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails and messages like settin…

>The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails I did not see the announcement. Can Siri also send emails? If so then won't this (like Gemini) be vulnerable to prompt injection attacks? Edit: Supposedly Gemini does not actually send the emails; maybe Apple is doing the same thing?

It just writes the content, it doesn't actually send anything.

We'll find out later if there's an API to do something like that at all or are external communications always behind some hard limit that requires explicit user interaction.

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Post by dudus »

jeroenhd wrote: post #476
Terretta wrote: post #437

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> I see no real difference between 2 and 3. This #2, so-called "Private Cloud Compute", is not the same as iCloud. And certainly not the same as sending queries to OpenAI. Quoting: “With Private Cloud Compute, Apple Intelligence can flex and scale its computational capacity and draw on larger, server-based models for more complex requests. These models run on servers powered by Apple silicon, providing a foundation t…

"We make the hardware and we pinky promise that we will protect your data and will open source part of it" means nothing for privacy. Especially when things like warrants come into play.

It's a big mental gymnastics to do the same as Google and Microsoft while claiming moral superiority.

Apple's thrown stones come back to hunt their glass ceiling.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by dmix »

peppertree wrote: post #368
maz1b wrote: post #170

Gotta say, from a branding point of view, it's completely perfect. Sometimes things as "small" as the letters in a companies name can have a huge impact decades down the road. AI == AI, and that's how Apple is going to play it. That bit at the end where it said "AI for the rest of us" is a great way to capture the moment, and probably suggests where Apple is going to go. imo, apple will gain expertise to serve a mons…

I think the biggest announcement was the private compute cloud with Apple Silicon. Apple is building up internal expertise to go after Nvidia.

Can you explain what that means for someone who missed part of the video today?

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by demondemidi »

everfree wrote: post #454
pessimizer wrote: post #427

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> Turn off what part and why? Assume any part, and assume none of your business.

It's not reasonable to expect to be able to turn off "any part" of a piece of software, unless it's open source and you're digging through the code yourself to remove sections of it, refactor and re-compile everything. That said, Apple generally gives people very fine-grained controls over what software features they want enabled, at least compared to other closed-source software vendors. My question "what part and w…

I don't want any part of my personal data (what I write, what I photograph, what I record, what I jot down) to be viewed by anything by my own eyes or the encryption algorithm converting it to ciphertext to send across a secure channel WITHOUT MY CONSENT.

Period.

Reason: again, nobody's business.

If you don't get this then, a) you're not in a high-risk group for discrimination, or b) you've never been subjected systemic polices designed to keep you "in line".

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by throwanem »

rcdemski wrote: post #216
throwanem wrote: post #128

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Text as a Siri interface has been available for a while now. Long-press the sleep/wake button to raise the prompt.

It has, but it’s presently an accessibility affordance you have to enable first. It’s found under device Settings > Accessibility > Siri > “Type to Siri” On/Off

Oh, go figure. Let that be a lesson: if you don't check out the accessibility options, you're missing at least half the cool stuff your phone can do to actually make your life easier.
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