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Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Can someone explain why the AAPL share drops 1% during the event. Did the market expect more? If so, what?

I mean how they'll monetise it?

It's like any other feature in that the purchase price of the new iPhone and App Store revenue helps pay for the AI functionality. Like they hope people will want to upgrade their phones or switch to Apple for this.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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post #262

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What do you mean into hands of platform owners? The point of having an Apple device is that you can run stuff on your device. The user is in control, not any platforms.

Apple owns the software platform. Can I run my non-Apple Intelligence software on the data in "my" iPhone?

They did mention they’re adding support for other providers.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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post #256

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Why? Things are secure (outside of the explicit OpenAI calls via Siri) and mostly seem subtly integrated. You don't have to use each feature, but why blindly disable all AI having not even tried it?

"It will automatically find a picture of your drivers license, read the number and add it to your text" This is scary stuff that should not be happening on anything that is closed-source and unaudited publicly. The pervasiveness of surveillance it enables is astounding.

What's different about this from the current implementation of searching photos for 'driver's license' and it pulling up pictures of your license? iOS has already been using "AI" image recognition for years on your photos.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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That's not a "promise from Sam Altman", that's a contractual term between Apple, Inc. and OpenAI, LLC. So I think it's worth as much as Apple is willing to spend enforcing it, which I imagine would be quite a bit.

> that's a contractual term between Apple, Inc. and OpenAI, LLC. do you have a source on this or are you just assuming?

It would be a very surprising business arrangement if that was not explicitly called out. Apple is not going to leave this to chance.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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I am deeply disturbed they decided to go off-device for these services to work. This is a terrible precedent, seemingly inconsistent with their previous philosophies and likely a pressured decision. I don't care if they put the word "private" in there or have an endless amount of "expert" audits. What a shame.

They prompt you before you go off-service, which makes the most sense.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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I think this will be a complete game changer. This will be the first device (with reasonable capabilities) where the human-machine interaction can transform into an actual instruction/command only one. We no longer just choose between a set of predefined routes, but ask the machine to choose for us. If it really does work out even half as good as they show, this will fundamentally alter our connection to tech, basically having created “intelligence” known from our previous century sci-fi tales.

Of course LLMs will quickly show their bounds, like they can’t reason, etc - but for the everyday commands people might ask their phones this probably won’t matter much. The next generation will have a very different stance towards tech than we do.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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So, if I've got this correct there's: 1. On-device AI 2. AI using Apple's servers 3. AI using ChatGPT/OpenAI's services (and others in the future) Number 1 will pass to number 2 if it thinks it requires the extra processing power, but number 3 will only be invoked with explicit user permission. [Edit: As pointed out below, other providers will be coming eventually.]

I see no real difference between 2 and 3. Once the data has left your device, it has left your device. There is no getting it back and you no longer have any control over it.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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post #110

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> Edit: except for image generation. That one sucks Say more? it's just the media thing about intellectual property rights?

I was referring to the limitations of the feature which can only generate images in three pre-canned cartoony styles

I wonder if those are to avoid two of the big image generation controversies:

1. Imitation of artists' styles (Make an image in the style of...). The restricted styles are pretty generic, so harder to pin down as being a copy of or imitation of some artist.

2. It's cartoony, which avoids photorealistic but fake images being generated of real people.

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