Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

apple.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

251–260 of 1001 posts

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

#251

Post by tom1337 »

ayakang31415 wrote: post #182

There was one part that I didn't understand about AI compute: For certain tasks, server side compute will be done as on-device chip is not powerful enough I suppose. How does this ensure privacy in verifiable manner? How do you CONFIRM that your data is not shared when cloud computing is involved with AI tasks?

Your data is being shared. But they've shown that it is being done in a way where only required data leaves the devices and there are some protections in place which try to minimize misuse of the data (the OS will only communicate with publicly signed versions of the server for example). The call to Apples "Private Compute Cloud" is intransparent to the user, ChatGPT calls need permission if I understood it correctly.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

#252

Post by terramex »

davidbarker wrote: post #143

So, if I've got this correct there's: 1. On-device AI 2. AI using Apple's servers 3. AI using ChatGPT/OpenAI's services (and others in the future) Number 1 will pass to number 2 if it thinks it requires the extra processing power, but number 3 will only be invoked with explicit user permission. [Edit: As pointed out below, other providers will be coming eventually.]

Lvl 3 is supposed to support other models and providers in the future too. I hope it will support every server with simple, standard API so I can run self-hosted LLama 3 (or whatever will be released in next 6-12 months).

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

#253

Post by shbooms »

aaronharnly wrote: post #151
talldayo wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and OpenAI won’t store requests. What's a promise from Sam Altman worth, again?

That's not a "promise from Sam Altman", that's a contractual term between Apple, Inc. and OpenAI, LLC. So I think it's worth as much as Apple is willing to spend enforcing it, which I imagine would be quite a bit.

> that's a contractual term between Apple, Inc. and OpenAI, LLC.

do you have a source on this or are you just assuming?

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

#254

Post by abrichr »

PodgieTar wrote: post #27

Few thoughts: It seems like this is what Rabbit's LAM was supposed to be. It is interesting to see it work, and I wonder how it will work in practice. I'm not sold on using voice for interacting with things still. Image Generation is gross, I really didn't want this. I am not excited to start seeing how many horrible AI images I'm going to get sent. I like Semantic Search in my photos. This does seem like the typical…

I wonder how they will extend this to business processes that are not in their training set.

At https://openadapt.ai we rely on users to demonstrate tasks, then have the model analyze these demonstrations in order to automate them. The goal is similar to Rabbit's "teach mode", except it's desktop only and open source.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

#255

Post by azinman2 »

gigel82 wrote: post #179
MailleQuiMaille wrote: post #155

[flagged]

No, no... Apple is totally cool and private. This is totally not like Recall at all, it's semantic index - and it only goes to the "private cloud" some of the times with your data.

Recall is taking screenshots and performing ocr, stored in what turned out to be clear text. Semantic index is spotlight’s next version, which you already have on your devices. It’s quite different.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

#256

Post by seydor »

gkoberger wrote: post #133
nottorp wrote: post #103

I have only one question: can I turn it off?

Why? Things are secure (outside of the explicit OpenAI calls via Siri) and mostly seem subtly integrated. You don't have to use each feature, but why blindly disable all AI having not even tried it?

"It will automatically find a picture of your drivers license, read the number and add it to your text"

This is scary stuff that should not be happening on anything that is closed-source and unaudited publicly. The pervasiveness of surveillance it enables is astounding.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

#258

Post by jwells89 »

jawngee wrote: post #136
rasengan wrote: post #107

There has never been a better time to move to Linux. Have you tried Omakub? Manjaro? Mint? Ubuntu 24? These are polished and complete alternatives and your favorite app probably has a Linux build already!

| These are polished and complete alternatives Are they though? I just setup ubuntu 24 for my son to play games and it's comparatively a very unpolished experience. I'm being very polite when I say that.

Even as someone who keeps a laptop booted into Linux most of the time, yes there are bumps and rough edges that will be encountered once venturing off the most common path of “internet, video, and word processor box”. It’s much better than it once was but it still has problems and the way that fervent advocates try to sweep them under the rug doesn’t help the situation.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

#259

Post by Almondsetat »

hu3 wrote: post #101

Am I understanding correctly that some AI will run on Apple servers? So not completely offline AI. If so that's somewhat disappointing given how much AI power Apple hardware packs. > Apple sets a new standard for privacy in AI, with the ability to flex and scale computational capacity between on-device processing and larger, server-based models that run on dedicated Apple silicon servers

I think it's a little disingenuous to think on-device accelerators on a mobile phone would be able to do literally any AI task without help

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

#260

Post by Jtsummers »

riversflow wrote: post #46

> coming to iPhone 15 pro, iPad and Mac with M1 or later. I assume it will come to all the iPhone 16’s this fall? Or is Apple Intelligence a Pro Feature? Either way, my first reaction is that this is going to sell a lot of iPhones.

Apple's phones have, for several years now, been on a tick/tock sort of pattern. iPhone N Pro has the new CPU (15 Pro got the A17) and iPhone N uses the prior gen pro CPU (15 got the A16, which was in the iPhone 14 Pro). So this is probably an A17+ feature. If they stick to form, the iPhone 16 will have the A17 processor and the iPhone 16 Pro will have the A18.

That's part of the differentiation between (on the phones) the Pro and non-Pro these days with the Pro getting all the new stuff, and non-Pro getting a partially improved (and partially degraded, usually wrt the camera) Pro from the prior year.

Post reply on HN