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Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by menacingly »

menacingly wrote: post #78
toddmorey wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought privacy was really well handled for a high-level overview. Basically it seems like anything thing it can't do on device uses ephemeral private compute with no stored data. Any data sent to 3rd party AI models requests your consent first. The details will need to emerge on how they live up to this vision, but I think it's the best AI privacy model so far. I only wish they'd go further and release the Apple I…

if the servers are so private, why is on-device such a win? here are some irrelevant distractions: - the cpu arch of the servers - mentioning that you have to trust vendors not to keep your data, then announcing a cloud architecture where you have to trust them not to keep your data - pushing the verifiability of the phone image, when all we ever cared about was what they sent to servers - only "relevant" data is sen…

it will defer to the server a _lot_, if you just consider the capability they can fit on that phone

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by smith7018 »

nkotov wrote: post #83

While I think it's cool and I appreciate Apple crafting better stories on why this is helpful, I still think for the everyday person, they won't really care if it's AI or not.

Most of Apple's announcements today featured AI but the term wasn't explicitly mentioned. I think the last portion of the keynote that focused on AI was merely for investors tbh

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by educasean »

talldayo wrote: post #105
mfiguiere wrote: post #84

> Privacy protections are built in for users who access ChatGPT — their IP addresses are obscured, and OpenAI won’t store requests. ChatGPT’s data-use policies apply for users who choose to connect their account. > ChatGPT will come to iOS 18, iPadOS 18, and macOS Sequoia later this year, powered by GPT-4o.

> and OpenAI won’t store requests. What's a promise from Sam Altman worth, again?

Tim Cook doesn't seem to mind hanging his reputation on sama's promise, so at least that's something

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by dylan604 »

nkotov wrote: post #83

While I think it's cool and I appreciate Apple crafting better stories on why this is helpful, I still think for the everyday person, they won't really care if it's AI or not.

But Apple's integration means you can use it and not care if it is AI or not. It'll just become part of using iOS (let's face it, that's were the majority of Apple's users will be). From creating a new "genmoji" to any of the other examples of allowing people to do this without know WTF huggingface or the other equally ridiculously named products are. They don't need accounts. They just type a message and decide to put in a new image.

Of course we've only seen examples from an overly produced hype/propaganda video, but it looks to me of yet another example of Apple taking products and making them usable to the masses

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by kaba0 »

whimsicalism wrote: post #71

It's interesting how positive the commentary is here. I am generally much more pro-AI than the average HN commentator, but frankly I find this release completely underwhelming. Just replace Siri with chatgpt and give it actions, that is what everyone wants - why can't we have that?

They have literally revamped Siri, and based it on an LLM that runs on-device, and can use your personal context, plus can escalate to a private cloud model when it deems “weak” for the task at hand.

How the hell is it underwhelming?

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by throwanem »

Tagbert wrote: post #74
PodgieTar wrote: post #27

Few thoughts: It seems like this is what Rabbit's LAM was supposed to be. It is interesting to see it work, and I wonder how it will work in practice. I'm not sold on using voice for interacting with things still. Image Generation is gross, I really didn't want this. I am not excited to start seeing how many horrible AI images I'm going to get sent. I like Semantic Search in my photos. This does seem like the typical…

I like that they finally brought typing interaction to Siri. You won't always need to use voice. This does look like a real-world implementation of the concept promoted by Rabbit. Apple already had the App Intents API mechanism in place to give them the hooks into the apps. They have also publish articles about their Ferret UI LLM that can look at an app's UI and figure out how to interact with it, if there are no av…

Text as a Siri interface has been available for a while now. Long-press the sleep/wake button to raise the prompt.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by jspann »

I remain skeptical until I see it in action. On the one hand, Apple has a good track record with privacy and keeping things on device. On the other, there was too much ambiguity around this announcement. What is the threshold for running something in the cloud? How is your personal model used across devices - does that mean it briefly moves to the cloud? How does its usage change across guest modes? Even the phrase "OpenAI won’t store requests" feels intentionally opaque.

I was personally holding out for a federated learning approach where multiple Apple devices could be used to process a request but I guess the Occam's razor prevails. I'll wait and see.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by gigel82 »

algesten wrote: post #104

"Semantic Index" sure is a better name than "Recall". Question is whether I can exfiltrate all my personal data in seconds?

It's all in the "private cloud". "Trust me bro", it's like totally private, only us and a handful of governments can read it.
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