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Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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It's interesting how positive the commentary is here. I am generally much more pro-AI than the average HN commentator, but frankly I find this release completely underwhelming.

Just replace Siri with chatgpt and give it actions, that is what everyone wants - why can't we have that?

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

#72

The privacy conversation was pretty shady, and honestly full of technical holes with pointless misleading distractions

I thought privacy was really well handled for a high-level overview. Basically it seems like anything thing it can't do on device uses ephemeral private compute with no stored data. Any data sent to 3rd party AI models requests your consent first. The details will need to emerge on how they live up to this vision, but I think it's the best AI privacy model so far. I only wish they'd go further and release the Apple I…

Considering they spent the first half of that segment throwing shade at people who claim privacy guarantees without any way to verify them, Apple hopefully will provide a very robust verification process.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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post #8

.. and none of it is open. It's a closed source OS with a proprietary dev cloud service using proprietary model that's only accessible with proprietary sdks.

The "kits" are "openish" to developers. I imagine that many app developers are going to be making models for specific use cases.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

#74

Few thoughts: It seems like this is what Rabbit's LAM was supposed to be. It is interesting to see it work, and I wonder how it will work in practice. I'm not sold on using voice for interacting with things still. Image Generation is gross, I really didn't want this. I am not excited to start seeing how many horrible AI images I'm going to get sent. I like Semantic Search in my photos. This does seem like the typical…

I like that they finally brought typing interaction to Siri. You won't always need to use voice.

This does look like a real-world implementation of the concept promoted by Rabbit. Apple already had the App Intents API mechanism in place to give them the hooks into the apps. They have also publish articles about their Ferret UI LLM that can look at an app's UI and figure out how to interact with it, if there are no available intents. This is pretty exciting.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

#75

Few thoughts: It seems like this is what Rabbit's LAM was supposed to be. It is interesting to see it work, and I wonder how it will work in practice. I'm not sold on using voice for interacting with things still. Image Generation is gross, I really didn't want this. I am not excited to start seeing how many horrible AI images I'm going to get sent. I like Semantic Search in my photos. This does seem like the typical…

I had similar reactions, a couple add-ons to make:

1. Yes, App Intents feel like the best version of a LAM we'll ever get. With each developer motivated to log their own actions for Siri to hook into, it seems like a solid experience.

2. Image Gen - yeah, they're pretty nasty, BUT their focus on a "emoji generator" is great. Whatever model they made is surprisingly good at that. It's really niche but really fun. The lifelessness of the generations doesn't matter so much here.

3. Polish - there's so much polish, I'm amazed. Across the board, they've given the "Intelligence" features a unique and impressive look.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

#76

I thought it was underwhelming. The fact that integration with ChatGPT is not seamless pours cold water over it. Siri will seek your permission each time before passing the question to ChatGPT. I can avoid that step by using ChatGPT directly.

There are a lot of people who do not want their phone seamlessly hooked into anything OpenAI touches. Choice is important

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

#77
post #39

It was a very quick mention, but Siri will now have a text button directly on the lock screen. If we assume AI will get even 3-4x better, at a certain point, I can't help but think this is the future of computing. Most users on mobile won't even need to open other apps. We really are headed for agents doing mostly everything for us.

Except the Intent API is completely crippled. Maybe the next big OS will just let the AI parse existing menus and figure out all the potential actions an app can take. Some actions need complex objects, so we need a new general mechanism for AIs to connect to 'exported functions'.

Some general OS rethinking is overdue. Or maybe Android is ready for this? Haven't looked into it since they made development impossible via gradle.

Despite this negativity the announcements were better than expected, rebranding AI is bold and funny. But the future will belong to general Agents, not a hardcoded one as presented.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

#78

The privacy conversation was pretty shady, and honestly full of technical holes with pointless misleading distractions

I thought privacy was really well handled for a high-level overview. Basically it seems like anything thing it can't do on device uses ephemeral private compute with no stored data. Any data sent to 3rd party AI models requests your consent first. The details will need to emerge on how they live up to this vision, but I think it's the best AI privacy model so far. I only wish they'd go further and release the Apple I…

if the servers are so private, why is on-device such a win? here are some irrelevant distractions:

- the cpu arch of the servers

- mentioning that you have to trust vendors not to keep your data, then announcing a cloud architecture where you have to trust them not to keep your data

- pushing the verifiability of the phone image, when all we ever cared about was what they sent to servers

- only "relevant" data is sent, which over time is everything, and since they never give anyone fine-grained control over anything, the llm will quietly determine what's relevant

- the mention that the data is encrypted, which of course it isn't, since they couldn't inference. They mean in flight, which hopefully _everything_ is, so it's irrelevant

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