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Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by stephen_g »

vunderba wrote: post #3

I migrated away from Adobe after Photoshop CS6 which I believe was the last release before they switched over to a subscription only pricing model. If you're looking for a Photoshop alternative to break away from the incredibly user hostile relationship with Adobe I can heartily recommend either Krita (open source) or Pixelmator (Mac only). Pixelmator Pro is my daily driver for image related work and is incredibly sn…

Yeah, I ran Mojave on one of my Macs for years, until the very last moment to be able to use CS6! It is a shame they didn’t do one more version that had 64 bit support before they went to the crappy subscription model or I could still use it in Rosetta 2!

I can also recommend Pixelmator Pro, it’s been really good for what I use it for!

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by ptero »

UberFly wrote: post #17
grishka wrote: post #12

Does this only relate to things you put into their cloud, or does Photoshop now upload your offline files to Adobe servers as well? By the way, it's always morally correct to pirate Adobe software for personal use. Which also allows you to fully firewall it because it no longer needs to talk to the activation server.

It's only for people nutty enough to use their cloud services like Behance. And I agree with your second point.

On the contrary, it is for any images created with their software, whether you store those images in their cloud or at your own computer.

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by quitit »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #75
quitit wrote: post #47

Even if this is not what Adobe are doing, the author of the tweet is not incorrect to make such an interpretation from the terms. Now would be a good time for Adobe to do away with vague "catch all" language, because we now live in an era where user data is being swept up for AI model generation and governments are leaning heavily into tech companies for policing. However to play the devil's advocate we can see how t…

> Now would be a good time for Adobe to do away with vague "catch all" language, because we now live in an era where user data is being swept up for AI model generation and governments are leaning heavily into tech companies for policing. 100%. The thing is, I've seen in B2B sales, one business handling another's data will have to very explicitly say who will be acting as subprocessors and storage of data. You might…

Adobe have released a statement on the topic:

https://blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2024/06/06/clarification-a...

Interestingly the problematic language was already in the terms prior to this update.

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by bhewes »

DHPersonal wrote: post #89
alwillis wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I went Adobe-less a few years ago; can't recommend Affinity enough. [1] I know there's some concern since Canva bought Affinity a couple of months ago, assuming they're going to turn the Affinity suite into a subscription product. I don't share those concerns; Affinity huge rise in popularity is because it's not a subscription like Adobe's core offering. A one-time payment gets you Affinity Designer, Photo and Publis…

Canva just bought Affinity software offerings, so who knows how long they will be a one-time purchase program.

At least near term it stays the same - https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/press/newsroom/affinity-and...

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by hyperman1 »

grishka wrote: post #12

Does this only relate to things you put into their cloud, or does Photoshop now upload your offline files to Adobe servers as well? By the way, it's always morally correct to pirate Adobe software for personal use. Which also allows you to fully firewall it because it no longer needs to talk to the activation server.

I strongly disagree with it being morally correct to pirate Adobe.

You still help grow their near monopoly. Alternatives, both paid and free, lost growth. Your professional choice will still be Adobe, because that's where you spent your training effort.

I'm pretty sure Adobe prefers you pirating over leaving.

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by orangesite »

bishbosh wrote: post #69
havilland wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn’t even look at startups if there is a viable open source alternative. Most startups are just looking to get a big enough user base to get bought by the big players.

Exactly, any startup will just be on a different place of the enshitification curve.

Whomever is downvoting you clearly has an interest in one or more startups.

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by squigz »

orangesite wrote: post #108
bishbosh wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly, any startup will just be on a different place of the enshitification curve.

Whomever is downvoting you clearly has an interest in one or more startups.

Let's not forget the HN is literally about startups. Easy to forget that and think it's just "hackers" and "nerds" sharing cool links. It's not.

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by dang »

walteweiss wrote: post #100
dang wrote: post #96

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Wtf? Obviously you can't post slurs like this to HN, regardless of which population you're slurring. Since we've asked you before not to do this and you've continued to do it, I've banned the account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html .

Was this comment targeted at me or other commenters that are [flagged] or removed right now? Sincerely, I don’t understand, as it’s my comment you replied to. If that is targeted to me, I don’t understand which slurs are you talking about. Calling Russians Russians is a slur now? Explaining other parts of their culture, maybe? Explain me please. To me that looks like you (or ycombinator which policy you follow) side…

What you posted was obviously a slur—this was not a borderline call. You can't make pejorative generalizations about entire populations like that on HN, no matter which population, nor how you feel about them. I'm surprised to have to spell this out.

HN's rules don't change during a conflict. On the contrary, they become even more applicable: "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive." - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> So my assumption is that you just chose your side already

People frequently assume that they got banned because the moderator just disagrees with them, rather than because they broke the rules. We hear this from every side of every argument. All I can tell you is that what you posted would be just as unacceptable if it were about any other nationality. Like I said, this is not a borderline call.

Banned accounts are allowed to comment on HN, but their posts are killed by default. Users can vouch for the good comments posted by banned accounts, so the posts don't necessarily stay [dead].

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