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Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by lancesells »

adwi wrote: post #68
lancesells wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I went a very long time not using Adobe's products but I hit a wall when I went to do some motion-based projects. What's the After Effects alternative?

Not one-to-one (node vs layer metaphor) but Fusion is stupid powerful and free within Davinci Resolve. It’s an incredible piece of software that, in addition to being best in class color correction, has fully replaced Adobe in my professional video workflow (Premiere, AE, AME, etc) https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve/fus...

Thanks. I'll give it a try with a quick project.

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by vr46 »

freedomben wrote: post #70
vr46 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, the new Lightroom CC! I was a happy, delighted, enthusiastic Lightroom user from the moment it originally came out and threw Aperture into the bin where it belongs. Lightroom was fast, brilliant to use, a fabulous wrapper around ACR and managed all the photo files perfectly. It was, to me, as perfect a piece of consumer software that has ever existed. The moment CC turned up, not only was it a cut-down version in…

Agreed. This is I think the single biggest contributor to my now fairly radical approach to software. Unless the app is at least source available, I will only use it if I really need it. One of the most valuable things about open source to me now is simply that nobody can take it away. Sure maintainers can disappear, but (aside from accreted cruft/bitrot) I can keep using whatever version as long as I have hardware t…

Ditto. Commercial software turned out to have limited headroom.

GIMP is here but I can’t quite get my head around the lack of integration with open and save dialogs, even while I recognize your reasoning. The dumbest stuff becomes the biggest obstacle sometimes.

But no matter, because said commercial software companies are finding new paradigms for shrinkflation while reaching new heights in fiction and fantasy.

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by alwillis »

20after4 wrote: post #2

If you're still using Adobe's products, stop. Better late than never. Adobe had some great products. Then they over charged for them. Then they required a "cloud" subscription. There are alternatives. Support one of the startups or open source projects that are competing with them. Don't give Adobe another cent.

I went Adobe-less a few years ago; can't recommend Affinity enough. [1]

I know there's some concern since Canva bought Affinity a couple of months ago, assuming they're going to turn the Affinity suite into a subscription product. I don't share those concerns; Affinity huge rise in popularity is because it's not a subscription like Adobe's core offering.

A one-time payment gets you Affinity Designer, Photo and Publisher for macOS, Windows and iPad.

[1]: https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by CobaltFire »

vr46 wrote: post #45
shrubble wrote: post #44

I remember a number of years ago getting a cheap 1-year Lightroom susbscription as part of a promo. Got it installed, loaded up a few photos. Then went back to the directory to load the photos in a different program for comparison. The photos were deleted from my hard drive! They were loaded into Lightroom's cloud service, and without my knowledge or permission (and I was using the just-installed defaults) it had del…

Ah, the new Lightroom CC! I was a happy, delighted, enthusiastic Lightroom user from the moment it originally came out and threw Aperture into the bin where it belongs. Lightroom was fast, brilliant to use, a fabulous wrapper around ACR and managed all the photo files perfectly. It was, to me, as perfect a piece of consumer software that has ever existed. The moment CC turned up, not only was it a cut-down version in…

Capture One still has a one time purchase option.

I just demo'd Capture One against DxO Photolab because they were the two big ones with that feature left.

I'm not familiar with Photo Mechanic.

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by vr46 »

CobaltFire wrote: post #84
vr46 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, the new Lightroom CC! I was a happy, delighted, enthusiastic Lightroom user from the moment it originally came out and threw Aperture into the bin where it belongs. Lightroom was fast, brilliant to use, a fabulous wrapper around ACR and managed all the photo files perfectly. It was, to me, as perfect a piece of consumer software that has ever existed. The moment CC turned up, not only was it a cut-down version in…

Capture One still has a one time purchase option. I just demo'd Capture One against DxO Photolab because they were the two big ones with that feature left. I'm not familiar with Photo Mechanic.

Ah, but C1 has completely changed the offer by not including a single new feature update on the one-time perpetual purchase, only bug fixes, and no upgrade pricing at all. So it completely removes any kind of incentive for customer to stay loyal.

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by peterashford »

mock-possum wrote: post #80
nottorp wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't surprise me if they got 90-100% discounts for a few years in exchange for saying it's a good thing.

It’d surprise me. Adobe, like Apple, has a strong fambase. They don’t need material kickbacks to shill for their favorite corpos, the thrill of shouting loud-and-proud for a cause is enough.

Yup. There's a lot of cult-like adoration of the corporation in those communities

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by qwertox »

alwillis wrote: post #83
20after4 wrote: post #2

If you're still using Adobe's products, stop. Better late than never. Adobe had some great products. Then they over charged for them. Then they required a "cloud" subscription. There are alternatives. Support one of the startups or open source projects that are competing with them. Don't give Adobe another cent.

I went Adobe-less a few years ago; can't recommend Affinity enough. [1] I know there's some concern since Canva bought Affinity a couple of months ago, assuming they're going to turn the Affinity suite into a subscription product. I don't share those concerns; Affinity huge rise in popularity is because it's not a subscription like Adobe's core offering. A one-time payment gets you Affinity Designer, Photo and Publis…

Wow, thanks for sharing.

All apps. All platforms. No subscription. €179.99 ONE-OFF PAYMENT | incl. tax

That really seems fair.

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by peterashford »

soygem wrote: post #43

I still can't draw a circle in gimp :(

I can :o) But I completely agree, it's very non-obvious. It beggars belief that they haven't fixed that issue. Another poster suggested Krita - that's a good suggestion IMO (even thou I still like Gimp too)

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by DHPersonal »

alwillis wrote: post #83
20after4 wrote: post #2

If you're still using Adobe's products, stop. Better late than never. Adobe had some great products. Then they over charged for them. Then they required a "cloud" subscription. There are alternatives. Support one of the startups or open source projects that are competing with them. Don't give Adobe another cent.

I went Adobe-less a few years ago; can't recommend Affinity enough. [1] I know there's some concern since Canva bought Affinity a couple of months ago, assuming they're going to turn the Affinity suite into a subscription product. I don't share those concerns; Affinity huge rise in popularity is because it's not a subscription like Adobe's core offering. A one-time payment gets you Affinity Designer, Photo and Publis…

Canva just bought Affinity software offerings, so who knows how long they will be a one-time purchase program.

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by NBJack »

WalterSear wrote: post #13
20after4 wrote: post #2

If you're still using Adobe's products, stop. Better late than never. Adobe had some great products. Then they over charged for them. Then they required a "cloud" subscription. There are alternatives. Support one of the startups or open source projects that are competing with them. Don't give Adobe another cent.

Adobe: the golden goose that wouldn't die, but just festers on.

I think it's already dead; the vestiges of life it exhibits are basically the electrical tethers of AI editing, cloud 'collaboration', and various other "tweaks" trying to justify a yearly release of a product that feature-peaked years ago.
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