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Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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I wouldn’t even look at startups if there is a viable open source alternative. Most startups are just looking to get a big enough user base to get bought by the big players.

Exactly, any startup will just be on a different place of the enshitification curve.

Agreed, though personally if their product is open source or source available, I'm much less concerned since I'm not screwed if/when they enshittify or go belly up.

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

#72
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I went a very long time not using Adobe's products but I hit a wall when I went to do some motion-based projects. What's the After Effects alternative?

Not one-to-one (node vs layer metaphor) but Fusion is stupid powerful and free within Davinci Resolve. It’s an incredible piece of software that, in addition to being best in class color correction, has fully replaced Adobe in my professional video workflow (Premiere, AE, AME, etc) https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve/fus...

Another vote for Black Magic. They also support Linux as first-class citizens, which makes a world of difference to me.

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

#73
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> Haven't had any problems so far. That you know of. For all you know you could be infected and part of a botnet. Viruses don't open a big popup saying "haha you've been hacked!". This line of thinking is extremely common and absolutely nonsensical. The point of a virus is to remain undetected.

A botnet that shows no evidence of saturating my CPU, RAM, disk, network? OK fine then. Most malware these days does things like demand bitcoin, popup ads, or upload your files to the cloud without your consent. If I've actually unknowingly downloaded a virus, it's honestly less malevolent than the paid version.

> If I've actually unknowingly downloaded a virus, it's honestly less malevolent than the paid version.

This is a remarkable observation on the sad state of paid software. It's so sad because it's so true.

I don't mind buying software, but I do mind pretty much all DRM implementations. Even simple license checks have bitten me in the past when I had no internet access and the software just decided that time was up and it needed to verify me. Nothing fills me with rage more than software that I paid for refusing to run while I'm camping or on a plane or somewhere else without internet, for software that doesn't need any networt functionality whatsoever to operate.

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Unexpectedly fantastic news! My wife makes extensive use of the adobe PDF editing tools, which is has been a major blocker for getting her onto linux. What is a good replacement that works on windows and linux? Non-free is fine.

Xournal++ is my go to. It has a few quirks to get used to, but once you do it's quite functional. Biggest thing to watch out for is exporting and overwriting the source file. It will usually let you, but it often blanks out the source and loses your changes. So just make sure to export with a different filename than the original is. If you accept the default suggestion, it will work fine.

It's also made to be used well with wacom tablets, so if you have one of those you can make use of it in xournal++.

The older "Xournal" (no ++) is mostly functional but also dead, so I would go with Xournal++.

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Even if this is not what Adobe are doing, the author of the tweet is not incorrect to make such an interpretation from the terms. Now would be a good time for Adobe to do away with vague "catch all" language, because we now live in an era where user data is being swept up for AI model generation and governments are leaning heavily into tech companies for policing. However to play the devil's advocate we can see how t…

> Now would be a good time for Adobe to do away with vague "catch all" language, because we now live in an era where user data is being swept up for AI model generation and governments are leaning heavily into tech companies for policing.

100%.

The thing is, I've seen in B2B sales, one business handling another's data will have to very explicitly say who will be acting as subprocessors and storage of data. You might have to disclose that you're using AWS and Snowflake to store and process data.

Maybe it's time for B2C to start doing that, too. Instead of "We may send your data to 3rd parties for processing", say WHICH 3rd parties and WHY.

> legal brevity

An exceptionally rare thing to see. "Legalese" exists because people create loopholes by exploiting the slightest ambiguity.

I invented a story of a mom telling her kid to stop jumping on the bed, and the kid says "I'm not jumping, I'm hopping!" and goes into a diatribe on the difference between jumping and hopping, the mom says "well quit it!" and leaves, only to come back later and the kid is still jumping, the mom is angry, and the kid says "I'm not jumping or hopping, I'm bouncing!" and eventually the mom has to say something like "Do not jump, hop, bounce, spring, leap, or otherwise use your feet or any other body part, nor any object, to propel yourself upwards or laterally from the bed".

And then later, the mom checks on the kid, and he has removed the mattress from the bed and is still jumping on it.

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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post #34

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> undetected If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

If a tree falls in the forest and kills someone but no one around to be sad, did they really die?

U=U :)

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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> You understand the copyright, but you don’t respect it. That’s the idea. I understand stupid ideas, but I'm not required to respect them. Make the copyright last 3 years instead of an eternity, or make copyright holders pay an exponentially increasing tax, per copyrighted work, to extend it every year, then I'll reconsider. > You’re okay with having your Photoshop, but for free. Yes I am. Proudly. Why should I care…

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Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

#79
post #68

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I went a very long time not using Adobe's products but I hit a wall when I went to do some motion-based projects. What's the After Effects alternative?

Not one-to-one (node vs layer metaphor) but Fusion is stupid powerful and free within Davinci Resolve. It’s an incredible piece of software that, in addition to being best in class color correction, has fully replaced Adobe in my professional video workflow (Premiere, AE, AME, etc) https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve/fus...

I discovered this when looking at video effects options within envato elements. There are now over 6,000 templates there, that many moons ago I assumed were only really feasible with after effects.

I also see they have some for apple motion and final cut - but I don't do mac so they stay off my radar.

More using davinci and demanding effects that work with it, the better!

Most of the video effects I use regularly though are the built in ones in corel videostudio though - https://learn.corel.com/tutorials/applying-fx-filters/

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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A large swathe of professionals campaigned on behalf of Adobe when they switched from perpetual to subscription licensing. They willingly turned over control and this is merely the consequences of that willingness, which Adobe will continue to take advantage of. I don't see this leading to any changes, just pointing it out.

Wouldn't surprise me if they got 90-100% discounts for a few years in exchange for saying it's a good thing.

It’d surprise me.

Adobe, like Apple, has a strong fambase. They don’t need material kickbacks to shill for their favorite corpos, the thrill of shouting loud-and-proud for a cause is enough.

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