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Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by iLoveOncall »

grishka wrote: post #27
hjkl0 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By pirating, you mean running modified binaries from unknown sources? Morals aside, how is that safe, secure, or even convenient?

I've been doing it all my life. I've literally never paid for a software license, I don't know any better. In general, I usually download from reputable sources. Haven't had any problems so far.

> Haven't had any problems so far.

That you know of. For all you know you could be infected and part of a botnet. Viruses don't open a big popup saying "haha you've been hacked!".

This line of thinking is extremely common and absolutely nonsensical. The point of a virus is to remain undetected.

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by walteweiss »

vunderba wrote: post #3

I migrated away from Adobe after Photoshop CS6 which I believe was the last release before they switched over to a subscription only pricing model. If you're looking for a Photoshop alternative to break away from the incredibly user hostile relationship with Adobe I can heartily recommend either Krita (open source) or Pixelmator (Mac only). Pixelmator Pro is my daily driver for image related work and is incredibly sn…

I second both statements. I used Pixelmator Pro on a Mac for maybe a decade (before it became Pro), and it’s very good. I would highly recommend it to anyone on a Mac. Long ago they had 50% discount, I don’t know whether they still do discounts these days. It’s a one-time payment, so even without a discount they worth what they ask. If you work with the app all day long, every day, it’s such a pleasure after the ugly Photoshop. Pixelmator allowed me to forget Photoshop for good. And even allowed me to move to Linux, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40572874

Pixelmator Pro doesn’t work on Linux (it’s macOS exclusive, afaik), but it allowed me to stop being dependent on Photoshop and look for other alternatives. Krita is quite good on Linux. I cannot compare them as I’m not an artist myself, but for my use case Krita is good enough. Since it’s FOSS you can start with that easily.

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by walteweiss »

zimpenfish wrote: post #22
Brajeshwar wrote: post #7

Adobe Photoshop was one of the tools that helped me earn money professionally during my school and college days, so I had a nostalgic relationship with it. Then, I had a good relationship with Adobe in various ways for a long time in the 2000s. I stopped using such tools long back, but I wanted to keep one handy to remind me of the old days. I found Serif's Affinity[1] to be a good alternative so far. I've been a cus…

> The other good, light, quick, and easy-to-use alternative is Pixelmator Pro Unless you want, e.g., a destructive crop[0] which they have been not adding for at least 4 years and counting. Since my graphic work generally involves cropping, that kinda rules out Pixelmator Pro for me and forces me back into the Adobe Tax Hole. [0] There are undoubtedly many other deficiencies but this one really irks me.

What’s your work flow for needing to have a destructive crop?

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by Lammy »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #31
grishka wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been doing it all my life. I've literally never paid for a software license, I don't know any better. In general, I usually download from reputable sources. Haven't had any problems so far.

> Haven't had any problems so far. That you know of. For all you know you could be infected and part of a botnet. Viruses don't open a big popup saying "haha you've been hacked!". This line of thinking is extremely common and absolutely nonsensical. The point of a virus is to remain undetected.

> undetected

If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by walteweiss »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #31
grishka wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been doing it all my life. I've literally never paid for a software license, I don't know any better. In general, I usually download from reputable sources. Haven't had any problems so far.

> Haven't had any problems so far. That you know of. For all you know you could be infected and part of a botnet. Viruses don't open a big popup saying "haha you've been hacked!". This line of thinking is extremely common and absolutely nonsensical. The point of a virus is to remain undetected.

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Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

#36

Post by PebblesHD »

vunderba wrote: post #3

I migrated away from Adobe after Photoshop CS6 which I believe was the last release before they switched over to a subscription only pricing model. If you're looking for a Photoshop alternative to break away from the incredibly user hostile relationship with Adobe I can heartily recommend either Krita (open source) or Pixelmator (Mac only). Pixelmator Pro is my daily driver for image related work and is incredibly sn…

Another happy Pixelmator user, migrated across from Photoshop and Illustrator. For the relatively small cost ($30 on sale) its most of the way as good for my semi-professional work creating content. It has some rough edges but has so far been improved with every update.

Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by southernplaces7 »

walteweiss wrote: post #35
iLoveOncall wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Haven't had any problems so far. That you know of. For all you know you could be infected and part of a botnet. Viruses don't open a big popup saying "haha you've been hacked!". This line of thinking is extremely common and absolutely nonsensical. The point of a virus is to remain undetected.

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Re: Photoshop ToS grants Adobe access to user projects for 'content moderation'

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Post by marcomourao »

zimpenfish wrote: post #22
Brajeshwar wrote: post #7

Adobe Photoshop was one of the tools that helped me earn money professionally during my school and college days, so I had a nostalgic relationship with it. Then, I had a good relationship with Adobe in various ways for a long time in the 2000s. I stopped using such tools long back, but I wanted to keep one handy to remind me of the old days. I found Serif's Affinity[1] to be a good alternative so far. I've been a cus…

> The other good, light, quick, and easy-to-use alternative is Pixelmator Pro Unless you want, e.g., a destructive crop[0] which they have been not adding for at least 4 years and counting. Since my graphic work generally involves cropping, that kinda rules out Pixelmator Pro for me and forces me back into the Adobe Tax Hole. [0] There are undoubtedly many other deficiencies but this one really irks me.

> Unless you want, e.g., a destructive crop

Isn't this achieved by enabling the "Delete cropped pixels" option?

From Pixelmator help:

> Select "Delete cropped pixels" to permanently delete the cropped areas of an image or deselect it to crop the image nondestructively and hide the cropped areas of an image instead.

https://www.pixelmator.com/support/guide/pixelmator-pro/1010...

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