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Re: Israel reportedly used fake social accounts to garner support from US lawmakers

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Post by dang » Wed, Jun 05, 2024, 5:57 PM UTC

ipaddr wrote: post #67

runarberg wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Everytime I submit a github project it becomes [dead] immediately. You expect political drama submissions not to be flagged as offtopic?

Since there are no examples of that at https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=ipaddr, I assume you're talking about a different account.

It's possible that account is banned, but more likely your self-posts might be getting filtered by HN's software which tries to apply this guideline: "Please don't use HN primarily for promotion. It's ok to post your own stuff part of the time, but the primary use of the site should be for curiosity.:.

Re: Israel reportedly used fake social accounts to garner support from US lawmakers

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Post by jimbob45 » Wed, Jun 05, 2024, 5:58 PM UTC

nerdjon wrote: post #123

I find it quite concerning just how much propaganda the US seems to get from Israel. Where I live there are big billboards around, I regularly see ads on YouTube. I know propaganda is a thing, but it feels like we are getting more about a foreign government than our own. I feel like before what is going on now I was aware of some of the groups responsible for this being a thing, but was not fully aware just how much…

like I found out recently apparently the Boston police regularly go over to Israel for training?

That's really common for most countries on earth though[0]. Gaining exposure and experience from other countries is very valuable for police forces.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Law_Enforcement_...

Re: Israel reportedly used fake social accounts to garner support from US lawmakers

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Post by nerdjon » Wed, Jun 05, 2024, 5:59 PM UTC

ein0p wrote: post #184

nerdjon wrote: post #123

I find it quite concerning just how much propaganda the US seems to get from Israel. Where I live there are big billboards around, I regularly see ads on YouTube. I know propaganda is a thing, but it feels like we are getting more about a foreign government than our own. I feel like before what is going on now I was aware of some of the groups responsible for this being a thing, but was not fully aware just how much…

Do you find it concerning that no presidential candidate can even pass the primary without first kissing the ring of AIPAC? That Zionist lobby openly attacks insufficiently pro-Zionist candidates and then openly brags when they lose elections? With Zionist lobby trying to outlaw any criticism of Israel in direct violation of 1st amendment? Etc, etc. IDK about others, but I think this is insane.

100% yes.

TBH when I said "propaganda" I was grouping a lot of that under that when I should have been more specific.

But that and similar things is what I was referring to with "I don't understand how this much power over the US was ever deemed acceptable".

I remember seeing the articles about them funding the campaign of someone opposing someone else who had been critical if Israel. I don't remember which state or what position, but it wasn't just a one off either.

Re: Israel reportedly used fake social accounts to garner support from US lawmakers

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Post by leoh » Wed, Jun 05, 2024, 6:00 PM UTC

ein0p wrote: post #184

nerdjon wrote: post #123

I find it quite concerning just how much propaganda the US seems to get from Israel. Where I live there are big billboards around, I regularly see ads on YouTube. I know propaganda is a thing, but it feels like we are getting more about a foreign government than our own. I feel like before what is going on now I was aware of some of the groups responsible for this being a thing, but was not fully aware just how much…

Do you find it concerning that no presidential candidate can even pass the primary without first kissing the ring of AIPAC? That Zionist lobby openly attacks insufficiently pro-Zionist candidates and then openly brags when they lose elections? With Zionist lobby trying to outlaw any criticism of Israel in direct violation of 1st amendment? Etc, etc. IDK about others, but I think this is insane.

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Re: Israel reportedly used fake social accounts to garner support from US lawmakers

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Post by fsckboy » Wed, Jun 05, 2024, 6:00 PM UTC

justin66 wrote: post #156

Retric wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't understand how this much power over the US was ever deemed acceptable? Free speech sometimes applies to things you don’t like. There’s pro and anti propaganda for just about any foreign interest. Some of it’s just more subtle such as recommendations on TikTok. Ukraine had really obvious pro Ukraine requests for military aid and images of destruction, but quite a bit of pro Russia propaganda was more subtle…

> Free speech sometimes applies to things you don’t like. ...and in the United States we've defined down "free speech" to include "monetary donations."

somebody needs to pay for the billboard, or rent a hall to give a speech, or printing the flyers for your lost cat. How is money not essential to speech? Your proposal is that to support a cause, one should only be allowed to go outside and yell, because that's purer than the corrupting influence of money?

Re: Israel reportedly used fake social accounts to garner support from US lawmakers

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Post by leoh » Wed, Jun 05, 2024, 6:00 PM UTC

nerdjon wrote: post #193

ein0p wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you find it concerning that no presidential candidate can even pass the primary without first kissing the ring of AIPAC? That Zionist lobby openly attacks insufficiently pro-Zionist candidates and then openly brags when they lose elections? With Zionist lobby trying to outlaw any criticism of Israel in direct violation of 1st amendment? Etc, etc. IDK about others, but I think this is insane.

100% yes. TBH when I said "propaganda" I was grouping a lot of that under that when I should have been more specific. But that and similar things is what I was referring to with "I don't understand how this much power over the US was ever deemed acceptable". I remember seeing the articles about them funding the campaign of someone opposing someone else who had been critical if Israel. I don't remember which state or…

What the actual fuck

Re: Israel reportedly used fake social accounts to garner support from US lawmakers

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Post by nickff » Wed, Jun 05, 2024, 6:01 PM UTC

justin66 wrote: post #167

nickff wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm one of the people who flags some of these articles (though not this one), because they're generally uninteresting, and repetitive. I'm not Jewish, have never been to Israel, and am not part of any brigade.

Thank God you're protecting us from what you do not find interesting.

When you have a minute, please review the HN Guidelines, specifically:

>”Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.”

Re: Israel reportedly used fake social accounts to garner support from US lawmakers

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Post by leoh » Wed, Jun 05, 2024, 6:03 PM UTC

ein0p wrote: post #184

nerdjon wrote: post #123

I find it quite concerning just how much propaganda the US seems to get from Israel. Where I live there are big billboards around, I regularly see ads on YouTube. I know propaganda is a thing, but it feels like we are getting more about a foreign government than our own. I feel like before what is going on now I was aware of some of the groups responsible for this being a thing, but was not fully aware just how much…

Do you find it concerning that no presidential candidate can even pass the primary without first kissing the ring of AIPAC? That Zionist lobby openly attacks insufficiently pro-Zionist candidates and then openly brags when they lose elections? With Zionist lobby trying to outlaw any criticism of Israel in direct violation of 1st amendment? Etc, etc. IDK about others, but I think this is insane.

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Re: Israel reportedly used fake social accounts to garner support from US lawmakers

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Post by StriverGuy » Wed, Jun 05, 2024, 6:03 PM UTC

nerdjon wrote: post #123

I find it quite concerning just how much propaganda the US seems to get from Israel. Where I live there are big billboards around, I regularly see ads on YouTube. I know propaganda is a thing, but it feels like we are getting more about a foreign government than our own. I feel like before what is going on now I was aware of some of the groups responsible for this being a thing, but was not fully aware just how much…

AIPAC is dwarfed in comparison to some other countries in terms of wielding influence. Just look at how much Qatar has spent trying to influence the top universities in the world.

Re: Israel reportedly used fake social accounts to garner support from US lawmakers

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Post by ein0p » Wed, Jun 05, 2024, 6:04 PM UTC

leoh wrote: post #194

ein0p wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you find it concerning that no presidential candidate can even pass the primary without first kissing the ring of AIPAC? That Zionist lobby openly attacks insufficiently pro-Zionist candidates and then openly brags when they lose elections? With Zionist lobby trying to outlaw any criticism of Israel in direct violation of 1st amendment? Etc, etc. IDK about others, but I think this is insane.

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Every single point I made is 100% documented and verifiable. It’s also anti-Zionist, not antisemitic. There is a difference. And even if it were antisemitic (which it is not), I’d be within my constitutional rights as a US citizen living in the US.