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Israel reportedly used fake social accounts to garner support from US lawmakers

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Re: Israel reportedly used fake social accounts to garner support from US lawmakers

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Post by nerdjon »

ravenstine wrote: post #174
nerdjon wrote: post #123

I find it quite concerning just how much propaganda the US seems to get from Israel. Where I live there are big billboards around, I regularly see ads on YouTube. I know propaganda is a thing, but it feels like we are getting more about a foreign government than our own. I feel like before what is going on now I was aware of some of the groups responsible for this being a thing, but was not fully aware just how much…

On the other side of town where I live, billboards appeared with slogans like "Be pro-Semitic." This happened almost immediately after the latest conflict involving Israel began. So I can't just be against anti-Semites, but I have to be pro Jewish ethnicity? Interesting. There was also one stating that anti-zionism is anti-Semitic; I guess my Jewish friends and family who are not Zionists didn't get the memo. I can't…

> I can't prove that these are somehow connected to funding from Israel, but it seemed like these billboards were ready to go at a moment's notice.

Right, that is what we got in Boston. The timing is just too convenient.

Whether or not it is from Israel themselves or funding here for Israel is kinda a moot point when both have the same purpose: Propaganda for a foreign government.

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Post by dang »

runarberg wrote: post #30
SkipperCat wrote: post #4

Not a comment about who's right or wrong in this war, but it is fascinating that we have entered the age of the Internet being a place where warfare is fought. There have always been people posting web content about conflicts but now with Gaza and Ukraine, it seems that the nations fighting are actively looking at the internet as the fourth field of battle. Just waiting for a random US future president to create an "…

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Re: Israel reportedly used fake social accounts to garner support from US lawmakers

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Post by ein0p »

nerdjon wrote: post #123

I find it quite concerning just how much propaganda the US seems to get from Israel. Where I live there are big billboards around, I regularly see ads on YouTube. I know propaganda is a thing, but it feels like we are getting more about a foreign government than our own. I feel like before what is going on now I was aware of some of the groups responsible for this being a thing, but was not fully aware just how much…

Do you find it concerning that no presidential candidate can even pass the primary without first kissing the ring of AIPAC? That Zionist lobby openly attacks insufficiently pro-Zionist candidates and then openly brags when they lose elections? With Zionist lobby trying to outlaw any criticism of Israel in direct violation of 1st amendment? Etc, etc. IDK about others, but I think this is insane.

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dang wrote: post #183
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Post by dfxm12 »

1shooner wrote: post #170
Retric wrote: post #143

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> I don't understand how this much power over the US was ever deemed acceptable? Free speech sometimes applies to things you don’t like. There’s pro and anti propaganda for just about any foreign interest. Some of it’s just more subtle such as recommendations on TikTok. Ukraine had really obvious pro Ukraine requests for military aid and images of destruction, but quite a bit of pro Russia propaganda was more subtle…

Speaking of free speech, can you name another foreign interest that has managed to make it illegal in the US to boycott it's companies?

To add some context in case people aren't aware: https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20181218-texas-teacher-fir...

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Post by Sporktacular »

mupuff1234 wrote: post #171
drpossum wrote: post #165

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"Getting stuff wrong" by not corroborating facts using reliable sources is not acceptable for a news organization.

You're right, but just want to dispute the claim that NYTimes is somehow Israeli propaganda - I think it's clearly not.

The claim has some merit: https://theintercept.com/2024/04/15/nyt-israel-gaza-genocide...

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Post by vsuperpower2020 »

jhp123 wrote: post #97
vsuperpower2020 wrote: post #76

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are you trying to get Nazi talking points bingo? Don't forget the race science stuff or "ouch! my neck"

Sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about.

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Post by snowpid »

WhackyIdeas wrote: post #125
tick_tock_tick wrote: post #98

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You’re right about there being other genocides. But the difference here is that for many in the West, they are seeing their own participation in it (ie USA, UK) with the Germans giving morale support for it. All those American Boeing-made missiles ripping apart and burning alive those little hungry toddlers camping outside in their cold tents… it tends to make people reflect a little more.

In Germany there is no big debate.

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Post by WhackyIdeas »

cjk2 wrote: post #116
WhackyIdeas wrote: post #101

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The only good thing to come from Brexit is that for some people they woke up and smelt the more expensive coffee than it used to be and had some self reflection. I have spoke with a good few people now that were like ‘I was lied to’… well duh.

Unfortunately it was mostly "I was lied to, but I agree with it anyway because of X" where X is some loose justification to absolve themselves of the self-inflicted mess they got themselves into. My father was a fine one. His staff fucked off back to Europe, he couldn't hire anyone else and had to fold his company and retire. Then he found out he got cancer and that the NHS had staffing problems due to Brexit. Me, I…

Our business lost around 90% of European customers. Then the odd customer now from Europe emails in a rage because they had to pay import duties… so then having to tell them that ‘Brexit’ happened!

You are so right though - most people just will refuse to accept they were taken for fools with all the nasty rhetoric about ‘people coming in to our country’… and so many have even been convinced that ripping up the Human Rights act is somehow a good thing (??? Wtf!).

Rich people manipulating the minds of poor people was what Brexit was all about. At the time I was convinced this was a Russian move to make UK weaker. But then again, I was convinced for many years that Trump was a Russian asset to make America implode (which is kind of what happened).

All this hate for foreigners. It’s disgusting.

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