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Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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We've been moving our fleet to OSX, I am so tired of dealing with Windows and Microsoft in particular.

Just don't do large numbers of Apple "servers". Xserves were horrible and Mac Pro/Mini/Studios aren't really servers, they're still desktops. They're great as stand-alone desktops. For large numbers of Apple devices, MDM is essential.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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I'm definitely not one of those people who thinks Windows should stay frozen forever as Windows XP, I appreciate we're finally getting 15-20 year old features like search filtering in the task manager. But whoever's bonus metric is tricking people to sign in with MS accounts is really making it a gross experience. I managed to finally get my new machines install on a local account using "OOBE\BYPASSNRO" although none…

Why not the opposite? Track the Pro users all you want since these are people willing to spend more money on MS features and possibly also using their devices as a work device where the company pays for it. Leave the Home users (kids, parents, grandparents, etc.) alone and not get them into forcing signups, misclicking random shit, etc.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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Although I agree with the sentiment of voting with your wallet, but building the foundation of my GPU workstation that could cost me a lot in electricity if a bad actor took control of it on pirated software is ill advised.

You can download official ISOs of all of the Windows versions for free directly from Microsoft's servers. Then you just need to activate it and there are plenty of methods to do that without risk of malware. Microsoft seems to care about this so little that one of the most starred repositories in github(MAS) has provided easy one click activation solution for years at this point.

[*] https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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post #124

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Pirate it next time!

It comes with free root kits as well

Yes, but. We're talking about Microsoft here, we've known about their embedded rootkits since the NSAKEY[1] days.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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I'm not saying that MS shouldn't sell M365 or similar. The thibgs you mentioned are not exclusive to my issue. I would be willing to pay for an OS that has no Candy Crush, LinkedIn and whatever installed and that would allow to use local accounts. I also don't want forced reboots because of updates. Yet, I still would use OneDrive, M365, ... It's currently possible to to run your Office 2010 on Win 10/11, there's not…

> I would be willing to pay for an OS that has no Candy Crush, LinkedIn and whatever installed and that would allow to use local accounts. Me too. But I do agree with the beancounters at MS that putting such an OS on the market might reduce sales of store apps or O365 subscriptions or make it less convenient for people to use OneDrive backup etc - in a way that costs them more than they would make from selling this g…

the problem is things like forced updates are low-key good security policy.

users already have the power to defer updates for up to 35 days. What do people do with it? defer it as long as humanly possible and then whine when the timer runs out and they have to run the install.

again: the cure for forced updates has always been simple: run your updates occasionally. the people like GP who are forced into it? those are the people who should not be allowed to defer updates indefinitely, because they obviously can't handle the ability to defer updates which they are already allowed.

selling those users a version of windows intended for enterprise environments with a formalized lifecycle, managed by dedicated users, which is allowed to break the normal rules around updates etc, is like giving a no-limit amex to someone who has repeatedly overdrafted their secured credit card. They literally already have self-identified as not being able to handle even a little bit of a responsibility, they are the last users in the world you want to be able to defer indefinitely

Occasionally, a little user-hostility can be a good thing, in the big picture. Like, laws are fundamentally "citizen-hostile", but we still have to have them, because without fences a significant amount of people will choose not to be good neighbors.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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I agree. I've been a Linux user since 2017, and in the last year transitioned to an M1 MBP for the battery life (cheaper than buying an inverter+batteries in South Africa with loadshedding). Tried to upgrade to a new machine last month. New-ish (and not name brand) hardware made Linux unusable on it (keyboard & BT wouldn't work), while Windows was passable. After some work I decided to try working on Windows again. H…

I don’t think I could use a MacBook, I enjoy tinkering with my computer too much. I loathe cellphones, though, so I have an iPhone. It is fine. It belongs to Apple really. Someday maybe it will be easy enough to put together something like a Raspberry Pi cellphone. But, for now, I’ll just rent one from Apple and let them handle everything. They make fine devices for people who don’t like that type of device. No wonde…

i mean, macos is just unix, and you will do a lot of tinkering given how many bad defaults it's got, and how many weird foibles etc. I have a script which fixes all my file assignments after a brew upgrade because macos grabs them back when the old application is uninstalled, for example, plus about five third-party apps living in my toolbar (plus bartender to manage them all etc).

idk why people think macos is super locked down, it's not at all like the phones. the reason the AI revolution is happening on Apple second is because there's actually an enormous amount of technical people using macos these days. if they couldn't run a python script how would pytorch have ever happened etc?

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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I'm definitely not one of those people who thinks Windows should stay frozen forever as Windows XP, I appreciate we're finally getting 15-20 year old features like search filtering in the task manager. But whoever's bonus metric is tricking people to sign in with MS accounts is really making it a gross experience. I managed to finally get my new machines install on a local account using "OOBE\BYPASSNRO" although none…

According to the Windows 11 system requirements[1], Windows 11 Home edition requires internet connectivity and a Microsoft Account to complete device setup on first use. So can't you just tell Windows 11 Pro you don't have an Internet connection, given that it's officially optional? [1] https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-syste...

How do you get "optional" from "requires"?

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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post #230

Well, I'll personally weather this storm on my Windows 10 LTSC 21H2. I'm sure people will figure out something until 2027-01-12, when its security supports end, or Microsoft will release the Win 11 LTSC-equivalent.

How do you get a license for the LTSC?

I fake one with vlmcsd.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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I was a user of several microsoft services that worked relatively well. On computer I used to have onenote and onedrive. On phone I also had the outlook app to manage all emails. For exactly the very same reason you stated, I have stopped using them. Whilst I can still use them on my android phone, there is no point if they dont sync to my computer, and they don't sync to my computer because I am afraid of putting my…

It's not for everyone, but I have been having great success with Thunderbird for a mail client. Maybe give it a try and see if you like it.

Thunderbird is great until you receive Teams invites. It removes/hides the links in the calendar entry so you need to keep the email in order to be able to click on the meeting link.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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post #61

This is how Microsoft is fighting piracy: "So you want to use our software and not pay for it, huh? Fine, but in return we need your personal data and behaviour, and we will show you unwanted ads in the Start menu and other places. Deal?"

No deal. I paid quite a lot for my windows license.

And you don't really get an ad-free experience without both finagling a more expensive Enterprise license AND magic GPO/registry incantations to cut the crap. Conclusion: Microsoft is an airline without planes out to monetize misery.
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