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Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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Post by theGeatZhopa »

CoastalCoder wrote: post #204
utensil4778 wrote: post #201

My husband is a normal layperson who treats his computer like an appliance. It's just there to do word processing and web browsing. He's been asking me to buy him a new laptop and specifically wants Windows on it. I've been struggling for weeks trying to explain to him why Windows is bad and why I don't want to setup and manage his spyware machine. I've convinced him to at least try a few Linux distros to see what he…

That's a tough situation. Marriage is one of those relationships where hard-line stances (on either side) can be really damaging.

So, to resolve this tough situation: get rid of what you can't control. He will find help with Windows elsewhere..

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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Post by SergeAx »

utensil4778 wrote: post #201

My husband is a normal layperson who treats his computer like an appliance. It's just there to do word processing and web browsing. He's been asking me to buy him a new laptop and specifically wants Windows on it. I've been struggling for weeks trying to explain to him why Windows is bad and why I don't want to setup and manage his spyware machine. I've convinced him to at least try a few Linux distros to see what he…

If I understand correctly, you still can get Windows 10, which can be activated with local user: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

It is also more customizable in terms of disabling some (most?) spyware features using 3rd party tools. It's an effort, but I think your marriage is worth it.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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Post by NikkiA »

benterix wrote: post #151
mistercheph wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pirate it next time!

Will pirating it actually solve the issue? MS is not after one-time cash payment (heck, they even offered the upgrade for free), what they want is long-term user milking in various ways, some of them looking pretty grey to me.

Depends on which 'distro' you pirate, ghostsceptre removes a lot of the asshole-ness.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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Post by ryandrake »

Etheryte wrote: post #40
blueflow wrote: post #29

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I think we crossed the point where Linux is less shitty than Windows. KDE and XFCE can compete.

That could very well be, but less shitty is the wrong metric. Can get shit done is the right metric, regular users don't care about corporate telemetry and adware so long as it doesn't get in the way of getting their stuff done. A good example of what I mean is a work event I attended a year or two ago. We had a bunch of guys up on the stage and between the lot they probably had over a century of combined Linux exper…

You're exactly right. Many normal users are "single issue voters" when it comes to OS choice. Linux could be the best operating system in the world, and Windows could be flaming trash that will drain your bank account and shoot your puppy, but if the user has an application that's important to them that runs on Windows but not Linux, they will always choose the "shoot my puppy" choice because at the end of the day they just want to ruin that application.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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Post by NikkiA »

vjulian wrote: post #97
djaychela wrote: post #79

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For me, the something is the DAW i use (Cubase). I know it intimately, I make a living with it, and despite trying other alternatives, there isn't a DAW which runs on Linux which would cut it for me, in terms of overall features. If Cubase ran on linux (and all my current plugins could work), then I'd drop it in a heartbeat. I've been running Linux in various guises and roles since (I think) 1998, but it's never made…

I’m curious, how did you settle on PC vs Mac? I’m a PC user (Cubase), but there are certain unique advantages to Mac as a platform of course when it comes to music. I’m not wedded to brand personally but use PC as I find it more versatile in non-music tasks (and in music I am more a hobbyist these days).

I suspect

> and all my current plugins could work

holds the key, there are an immense amount of plugins that are PC-only, as I'm sure you're aware. The list of mac-only plugins is pretty tiny.

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Post by PawgerZ »

erremerre wrote: post #98
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #75

I'm definitely not one of those people who thinks Windows should stay frozen forever as Windows XP, I appreciate we're finally getting 15-20 year old features like search filtering in the task manager. But whoever's bonus metric is tricking people to sign in with MS accounts is really making it a gross experience. I managed to finally get my new machines install on a local account using "OOBE\BYPASSNRO" although none…

I was a user of several microsoft services that worked relatively well. On computer I used to have onenote and onedrive. On phone I also had the outlook app to manage all emails. For exactly the very same reason you stated, I have stopped using them. Whilst I can still use them on my android phone, there is no point if they dont sync to my computer, and they don't sync to my computer because I am afraid of putting my…

It's not for everyone, but I have been having great success with Thunderbird for a mail client. Maybe give it a try and see if you like it.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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Post by bishbosh »

Retric wrote: post #206
erremerre wrote: post #147

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In the year 2024 of our lord, Linux do not works fine with the ultra-common Realtek ALC892 chip for sound, having constant audio skips. Found in a myriad of motherboards from the last decade. This is just my issue, I am pretty sure, there are other loads of drivers issues elsewhere.

You check for compatibility before buying a part and if there’s going to be an issue you buy something else. MacOS doesn’t work on most machines either, but drivers aren’t an issue for Mac users.

This conversation is perpetually marred by this sort of flippant response. No one expects MacOS to work on anything but Apple hardware, but they do expect a random chip on the motherboard they've been using for a several years to work. Proposing they google every chip on their motherboard to see if they can run linux is a failure of linux.

I would hope that you consider that dismissive replies like this do little to encourage anyone to adopt linux, and instead make the community seem elitist and off putting.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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Post by bishbosh »

darkwater wrote: post #30
ta1243 wrote: post #25

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> The only thing holding me from Linux I've spent the last 25 years using linux and seeing this statement. There's always something.

And to give a more Linux-positive spin "there is always something that holds you... which is actually not that vital in the end once you lose it"

It really has come a long way. Obviously this is one users needs, and other folks will find other things that are missing or not 100%. But the fact that in this case the conversation as moved from gaming more generally, to vendor specific overclocking is quite a sign of the times.

Re: Microsoft blocks Windows 11 workaround that enabled local accounts

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Post by bishbosh »

M95D wrote: post #114
ta1243 wrote: post #25

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> The only thing holding me from Linux I've spent the last 25 years using linux and seeing this statement. There's always something.

How long does it take in linux for the context menu to open? In fact, is there a context menu at all?

It does have the advantage of context menus that contain all of the context, rather than a button to revert to an older version of the context menu that has what you actually want!
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