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Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by sukuriant »

quinndupont wrote: post #94
edw519 wrote: post #79

I don't know which I feel saddest about: 1. Whether or not this is actually illegal, it is clearly unethical and not in the spirit of good clean business and technology practices we should all be aspire to. 2. That it quickly made it to #1 on Hacker News. 3. That I seem to be one of the few who cares while most others nit on details.

Who let the MPAA in here? Seriously, unless you are a massive copyright holder, attempting to exploit every red penny out of your brainwashed masses, I don't see how any user would have a problem with this. Maybe the movie industry should try to out-innovate?

How does any of what he said sound like it's from the MPAA? I don't like piracy one bit and I try very hard to find legal solutions to my media wants (not needs): Netflix, Amazon Prime, CrunchyRoll, Zune, Vudu, Red Box, Hulu, iTunes, Sony's Video Unlimited (not completely out yet?)

What is so bad about honestly getting permission to watch things you want to watch?

[edit: added more to the list]

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

#132

Post by saraid216 »

quinndupont wrote: post #101
mahyarm wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are the movie screenshots and posters not infringing content?

Suddenly we live in a world where you need to go to a rights holder to reference an image for discussion or non-profit display? The law may be divided on the issue, but I'm not.

What do you mean by "the law [is] divided on the issue"? As far as I know, this is very clear-cut in the law.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

#133

Post by tbeseda »

nddrylliog wrote: post #109
ben0x539 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone not too familiar with p2p technologies: What difference does that make for the user?

I love to teach! Here's a small run-down: Previously, .torrent files were the preferred method to distribute torrents. They contain meta-data such as the size of the torrent, its name, whether it's a single file or a folder, the file structure, and more importantly, a list of trackers (think of them as "matchmakers" for people who participate in the torrent) and SHA-1 hashes of all blocks of the torrents. However, re…

Magnet links are great for trackers dodging liability, but the risk to the user is still the same, correct? The RIAA and MPAA can still monitor connected peers.

I think Mike might be making more of a reference to non-private trackers.

I wish I had your great interface for trusted communities I'm a member of...

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

#134

Post by nddrylliog »

biot wrote: post #108
nddrylliog wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wanted to clarify on: > Sure you are. You're directly helping people perform it. I'm not saying what you're doing should be illegal, but let's be honest here. You are "interested" in piracy. One could argue you're even involved in it. To be, again, completely honest with you, no. If you could have that much exposure showing photos of shoes, we'd do it instead. I see it as... a start-up without the worry to make profi…

> We don't upload movies, we don't run a tracker, we don't belong to > any release groups: that's how not interested in piracy we are. That's like saying "We don't sell crystal meth, we're not distributors for crystal meth, we don't belong to any drug production groups, but our site helps kids obtain crystal meth from those who do: that's how not interested in crystal meth we are."

In retrospect, you're right, we probably should blacklist Twilight from our DB.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

#135

Post by Zirro »

MatthewPhillips wrote: post #128
Zirro wrote: post #104

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I think the film-industry should be inspired by this. If they offered something which is as easy to use and as good-looking as this, piracy will certainly decrease. Just put a "Pay here"-button before giving the user their download-link. Skip the DRM and the restrictions for different parts of the world and they'd have a killer-platform for selling their products. I am not saying that piracy isn't "unethical", but th…

If Hollywood made this exact same product but with pay buttons, why would I as a user choose it over movies.io.

Because you want to support the making of more movies of the same kind. Because you have a conscience. That said, there will always be those who shoplift in stores, or pirate movies. I don't believe those people constitute the majority of the population.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

#136

Post by DuoSRX »

Estragon wrote: post #80
nddrylliog wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

cf. http://hackerne.ws/item?id=4054667 Displaying by default would confuse lambda users. How would you solve it UX-wise?

Where does this term "lambda users" come from?

"Lambda" is often used in french as an adjective for "average", "ordinary" or "typical".

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by kvnn »

edw519 wrote: post #79

I don't know which I feel saddest about: 1. Whether or not this is actually illegal, it is clearly unethical and not in the spirit of good clean business and technology practices we should all be aspire to. 2. That it quickly made it to #1 on Hacker News. 3. That I seem to be one of the few who cares while most others nit on details.

"...and not in the spirit of good clean business and technology practices we should all be aspire to"

Its not a business.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

#138

Post by scott_s »

nddrylliog wrote: post #81
white_devil wrote: post #69

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> Not doing ads, tracking you , trying to sell your data elsewhere: check With the absence of a "not" there, it's not quite clear whether you're telling the truth or not, but a http request to "track.gif" could be construed as, you know, tracking us . http://secure.gaug.es/track.gif?h[site_id]=4fb448ea613f5d5be... > We're not interested in piracy Sure you are. You're directly helping people perform it. I'm not saying…

Wanted to clarify on: > Sure you are. You're directly helping people perform it. I'm not saying what you're doing should be illegal, but let's be honest here. You are "interested" in piracy. One could argue you're even involved in it. To be, again, completely honest with you, no. If you could have that much exposure showing photos of shoes, we'd do it instead. I see it as... a start-up without the worry to make profi…

I find your comment disingenuous. I cannot take you seriously when you argue that you are not "interested" in the very thing you enable and are focused on.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

#139

Post by guard-of-terra »

Why? torrentz.eu is more generic and works better on fuzzy searches. And I don't care that you parsed wikipedia.

I've tried searching for some anime and it's not pretty, suggest offers you some transliterated or authentic japan which is confusing.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

#140

Post by jonstjohn »

MatthewPhillips wrote: post #128
Zirro wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the film-industry should be inspired by this. If they offered something which is as easy to use and as good-looking as this, piracy will certainly decrease. Just put a "Pay here"-button before giving the user their download-link. Skip the DRM and the restrictions for different parts of the world and they'd have a killer-platform for selling their products. I am not saying that piracy isn't "unethical", but th…

If Hollywood made this exact same product but with pay buttons, why would I as a user choose it over movies.io.

Convenience and (the perception) of safety, both from law and malware. Paying a reasonable amount for a movie that is easy to find and watch is a no-brainer for me. Of course, my time to income ratio is low.
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