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Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by nddrylliog »

white_devil wrote: post #69
nddrylliog wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- Not based in the US: check - Not hosting any infringing content: check - DMCA-compliant: check - Not selling anything: check - Not doing ads, not tracking you [1]: check - Not trying to sell your data elsewhere: check Lawyers will handle the rest. We're not interested in piracy, just very very good UI/UX. Stay tuned. [1] We use Gaug.es and Piwik with IP fuzzing. They provide enough high-level metrics so that we can…

> Not doing ads, tracking you , trying to sell your data elsewhere: check With the absence of a "not" there, it's not quite clear whether you're telling the truth or not, but a http request to "track.gif" could be construed as, you know, tracking us . http://secure.gaug.es/track.gif?h[site_id]=4fb448ea613f5d5be... > We're not interested in piracy Sure you are. You're directly helping people perform it. I'm not saying…

Wanted to clarify on:

> Sure you are. You're directly helping people perform it. I'm not saying what you're doing should be illegal, but let's be honest here. You are "interested" in piracy. One could argue you're even involved in it.

To be, again, completely honest with you, no. If you could have that much exposure showing photos of shoes, we'd do it instead.

I see it as... a start-up without the worry to make profit. We use analytics only to improve the product. We use this as a product building exercise, that's all.

We don't upload movies, we don't run a tracker, we don't belong to any release groups: that's how not interested in piracy we are.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by ben0x539 »

nddrylliog wrote: post #6
mikemarotti wrote: post #5

I sure as hell ain't downloading any movies from mystery trackers.

Look again: there are only magnet links on there. Trust the DHT :)

As someone not too familiar with p2p technologies: What difference does that make for the user?

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by smartendone »

hhimanshu wrote: post #68

is it legal to download movies from these torrents? I believe no, correct me if I am wrong http://techland.time.com/2011/08/30/expendables-piracy-lawsu...

No, it's not legal. But only non-MPAA-affiliated films are the subject of torrent lawsuits. The MPAA gave up that tactic a while ago. Movies like The Expendables and The Hurt Locker aren't MPAA-affiliated. Those lawsuits are being pushed by independent lawyers trying to get rich quick through mass settlements. Of course, that doesn't prevent them from suing in the future.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by nddrylliog »

rjernigan wrote: post #61
nddrylliog wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a typical Rails 3 apps, Nokogiri used for scraping, PostgreSQL db (migrated from SQLite originally), jQuery+ui for the aucomplete (lazy, yay!), and that's about it :)

If you don't mind me asking...where (and maybe how) are you pulling the super high quality images for each movie page background?

The http://www.themoviedb.org/ are doing an amazing job. Using their V3 API right now, it's very nicely designed.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by spinlock »

edw519 wrote: post #79

I don't know which I feel saddest about: 1. Whether or not this is actually illegal, it is clearly unethical and not in the spirit of good clean business and technology practices we should all be aspire to. 2. That it quickly made it to #1 on Hacker News. 3. That I seem to be one of the few who cares while most others nit on details.

Jobs and Wozniak started by building freaking boxes.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by tensafefrogs »

rsingel wrote: post #77

That's mighty purty. Bug: if you try to type in something that doesn't exist, say an actor's name like Walter Matthau, it autocorrects so aggressively you can't finish typing Feature requests: If it's available on Netflix/other streaming services, show a link. Oh, and this seems like a very bad place to actually log-in.

According to the Netflix terms for their affiliate program[1], they won't let you participate in their program if your site includes "illegal activities."

Seems understandable, but maybe if they allowed torrent sites to direct users to them they could help prevent some piracy AND everyone would make some money.

[1] https://signup.netflix.com/Affiliates

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by nddrylliog »

edw519 wrote: post #79

I don't know which I feel saddest about: 1. Whether or not this is actually illegal, it is clearly unethical and not in the spirit of good clean business and technology practices we should all be aspire to. 2. That it quickly made it to #1 on Hacker News. 3. That I seem to be one of the few who cares while most others nit on details.

Totally understand your position.

Hesitated a lot about this, and finally thought "fuck it, let's do it".

I think it's like people working in porn: they don't necessarily enjoy the industry, but at one point they thought "man, there's really something that needs to be done".

I'd much prefer a legal solution. I'd much prefer content owners to expose APIs for the licensing of their content, and have them let us create the front-ends.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by notatoad »

it's pretty, but it's a worse experience than legal alternatives like netflix because you have to take the gamble deciding which copy to download. I value piracy for pushing the user experience forward (without the competition it provides, i doubt we would have netflix instant streaming now), but nothing here seems different than anything before it, just prettier.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by there »

spinlock wrote: post #86
edw519 wrote: post #79

I don't know which I feel saddest about: 1. Whether or not this is actually illegal, it is clearly unethical and not in the spirit of good clean business and technology practices we should all be aspire to. 2. That it quickly made it to #1 on Hacker News. 3. That I seem to be one of the few who cares while most others nit on details.

Jobs and Wozniak started by building freaking boxes.

"phreaking"
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