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Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by quinndupont »

mahyarm wrote: post #73
nddrylliog wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- Not based in the US: check - Not hosting any infringing content: check - DMCA-compliant: check - Not selling anything: check - Not doing ads, not tracking you [1]: check - Not trying to sell your data elsewhere: check Lawyers will handle the rest. We're not interested in piracy, just very very good UI/UX. Stay tuned. [1] We use Gaug.es and Piwik with IP fuzzing. They provide enough high-level metrics so that we can…

How are the movie screenshots and posters not infringing content?

Suddenly we live in a world where you need to go to a rights holder to reference an image for discussion or non-profit display? The law may be divided on the issue, but I'm not.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by Zirro »

edw519 wrote: post #79

I don't know which I feel saddest about: 1. Whether or not this is actually illegal, it is clearly unethical and not in the spirit of good clean business and technology practices we should all be aspire to. 2. That it quickly made it to #1 on Hacker News. 3. That I seem to be one of the few who cares while most others nit on details.

I think the film-industry should be inspired by this. If they offered something which is as easy to use and as good-looking as this, piracy will certainly decrease.

Just put a "Pay here"-button before giving the user their download-link. Skip the DRM and the restrictions for different parts of the world and they'd have a killer-platform for selling their products.

I am not saying that piracy isn't "unethical", but that there are many ways it could be resolved without resorting to harsh laws.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by CJefferson »

quinndupont wrote: post #94
edw519 wrote: post #79

I don't know which I feel saddest about: 1. Whether or not this is actually illegal, it is clearly unethical and not in the spirit of good clean business and technology practices we should all be aspire to. 2. That it quickly made it to #1 on Hacker News. 3. That I seem to be one of the few who cares while most others nit on details.

Who let the MPAA in here? Seriously, unless you are a massive copyright holder, attempting to exploit every red penny out of your brainwashed masses, I don't see how any user would have a problem with this. Maybe the movie industry should try to out-innovate?

It's very difficult to out-innovate 'taking things someone else made and giving them away completely for free', when you have to make tens or hundreds of millions of dollars to break even.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by railsjedi »

spinlock wrote: post #86
edw519 wrote: post #79

I don't know which I feel saddest about: 1. Whether or not this is actually illegal, it is clearly unethical and not in the spirit of good clean business and technology practices we should all be aspire to. 2. That it quickly made it to #1 on Hacker News. 3. That I seem to be one of the few who cares while most others nit on details.

Jobs and Wozniak started by building freaking boxes.

friggin phreaking boxes ;)

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by biot »

nddrylliog wrote: post #81
white_devil wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Not doing ads, tracking you , trying to sell your data elsewhere: check With the absence of a "not" there, it's not quite clear whether you're telling the truth or not, but a http request to "track.gif" could be construed as, you know, tracking us . http://secure.gaug.es/track.gif?h[site_id]=4fb448ea613f5d5be... > We're not interested in piracy Sure you are. You're directly helping people perform it. I'm not saying…

Wanted to clarify on: > Sure you are. You're directly helping people perform it. I'm not saying what you're doing should be illegal, but let's be honest here. You are "interested" in piracy. One could argue you're even involved in it. To be, again, completely honest with you, no. If you could have that much exposure showing photos of shoes, we'd do it instead. I see it as... a start-up without the worry to make profi…

  > We don't upload movies, we don't run a tracker, we don't belong to
  > any release groups: that's how not interested in piracy we are.
That's like saying "We don't sell crystal meth, we're not distributors for crystal meth, we don't belong to any drug production groups, but our site helps kids obtain crystal meth from those who do: that's how not interested in crystal meth we are."

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

#109

Post by nddrylliog »

ben0x539 wrote: post #82
nddrylliog wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look again: there are only magnet links on there. Trust the DHT :)

As someone not too familiar with p2p technologies: What difference does that make for the user?

I love to teach! Here's a small run-down:

Previously, .torrent files were the preferred method to distribute torrents. They contain meta-data such as the size of the torrent, its name, whether it's a single file or a folder, the file structure, and more importantly, a list of trackers (think of them as "matchmakers" for people who participate in the torrent) and SHA-1 hashes of all blocks of the torrents.

However, recently, magnet links seem to be preferred: instead of sending all the info above, you just send the SHA-1 hash (20 bytes) of the torrent. (We add in some extra stuff, such as the torrent's name and size so it displays faster in torrent clients).

From that hash, torrent clients will join the Distributed Hash Table ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table ) and ask around if anyone has seen this torrent. If yes, the content of the .torrent file is transmitted directly from peer to peer, and you can start downloading it like a regular torrent.

It's a very neat trick, and it allowed bringing down the size of ThePirateBay to 90MB total: http://infworm.com/fit-the-entire-pirate-bay-site-on-a-usb-d...

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