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Re: Show HN: I built an interactive cloth solver for Apple Vision Pro

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Post by consumer451 »

TheNorthman wrote: post #26
consumer451 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This frightens me. I have been working at reducing my time of watching videos in bed, and all I have to tempt me is a phone and a laptop. It's such an easy trap to fall into. Spending time horizontal while not asleep is very unhealthy for your heart, and many other systems in your body.

> Spending time horizontal while not asleep is very unhealthy for your heart. Why is this?

To be clear, it's not that sleeping while horizontal is better than being awake while horizontal. We all need solid sleep, but being horizontal should otherwise be minimized as it is the ultimate sedentary lifestyle.[0] This causes heart atrophy.

[0] https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/the...

see my other comment for other references: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40549893

Re: Show HN: I built an interactive cloth solver for Apple Vision Pro

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Post by wtallis »

samatman wrote: post #29
wtallis wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not AR glasses. It's VR with lots of cameras.

You're describing an approach to implementing AR. Simple test: can you get a drink out of the fridge while wearing the headset? If the answer is yes, it's AR.

The definitions of these terms are certainly not fixed or universally agreed-upon, but on the spectrum from VR to MR to AR, the Vision Pro is definitely not at the AR end of things, and is very much not the class of device that the term "AR glasses" refers to.

The problems that "AR glasses" have with operating outside in full daylight are inherent to a class of devices that does not include the Vision Pro. To the extent that the Vision Pro works better outdoors than whatever "AR glasses" OP had in mind, it's because the Vision Pro is a fundamentally different kind of device with wildly different tradeoffs and design goals.

Re: Show HN: I built an interactive cloth solver for Apple Vision Pro

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Post by jayd16 »

BoorishBears wrote: post #18
pavlov wrote: post #15

I literally haven’t thought about the Vision Pro even a single time in months. Wild for such a hyped-up technology product. It just shipped and vanished.

Their stance on developer access made it DOA on day 1. All apps are flying blind when you're multitasking: apps can't even use iOS style marker tracking unless you run them in "immersive mode", which makes them the only app running. That combined with no camera access at all, extremely laggy hand tracking, and an inability to do room scale without a constant passthrough make it somehow less capable than a Quest 3. I…

As far as passthrough permissions, I don't think either platform lets you near the feed. Vision OS has their nonimmersive 3d widget mode which goes further and only gives you input when your widget is being interacted with. I assume Meta will go a similar route there.

Re: Show HN: I built an interactive cloth solver for Apple Vision Pro

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Post by wtallis »

jayd16 wrote: post #30
jwells89 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, the weakness of the onboard compute significantly restricts the Quests’ potential, as does their inability to take a DisplayPort input from a PC (the tether can only serve crappy compressed video). I own a Quest 2 and AVP and while the Quest is alright for what it does and regularly gets used (for PC-tethered Beat Saber mainly), I’m on the lookout for a quality dedicated PCVR-oriented replacement t…

Uncompressed 4k@90 isn't exactly trivial. I think you'd need TB3 or USB4 for the bandwidth alone and Qualcomm doesn't provide that on the chipset. The device itself can decompress 8K video if it's stored in disk. I'm fairly certain it's not Meta standing in the way here. My bet is Quest 4 will be able to achieve this but we'll see.

Yeah, Meta has a decent excuse in that they're basically using a smartphone chip for their headsets. Apple's using a laptop chip and another big chip, so not having any high-speed IO for the Vision Pro is more of a glaring omission.

Re: Show HN: I built an interactive cloth solver for Apple Vision Pro

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Post by smugma »

pavlov wrote: post #15

I literally haven’t thought about the Vision Pro even a single time in months. Wild for such a hyped-up technology product. It just shipped and vanished.

My wife and I saw a Segway in Golden Gate Park yesterday, and I made a similar comment about it.

Re: Show HN: I built an interactive cloth solver for Apple Vision Pro

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Post by smugma »

consumer451 wrote: post #25
sneak wrote: post #16

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I use mine almost every day, it's awesome for traveling. It might be the best "watching videos in bed" device ever made.

This frightens me. I have been working at reducing my time of watching videos in bed, and all I have to tempt me is a phone and a laptop. It's such an easy trap to fall into. Spending time horizontal while not asleep is very unhealthy for your heart, and many other systems in your body.

I read the second paragraph as a euphemism for having sex. I was confused because consensual sex is generally considered a healthy activity.
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