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Re: Collusion - iPad pen productivity solved

#41

This looks to be exactly like another iPad stylus on Kickstarter called the iPen [1]. It's funding was successful in December. [1] http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1225098940/ipen-the-firs...

Or the By-zero[1] with apps titled like "Studio Basic +". And a review[2].

[1] http://www.by-zero.com/ [2] http://www.ipadforums.net/ipad-accessories/57538-byzeo-studi...

Re: Collusion - iPad pen productivity solved

#43
post #5

The video still shows a lot of lag between when the stylus touches the glass and the pixels in the app show the pen trail. This needs to be heavily optimized or else it will make their hardware a lot of engineering work for nothing and users won't be happy. At this stage, from the video, it looks to have similar latency as other existing iPad sketch apps and those have no hardware dongle or stylus (and cost $100 less…

It's a neat idea, but the lag is a dealbreaker for me. I've been looking/waiting for a pen based note-taking solution, even if it's a unitasking solution, to get rid of the heavy hardcover sketchbook in my briefcase. My use case is simple, I just want a digital copy of my notes -- I don't need any OCR or anything fancy like that, and I'm not convinced that a LiveScribe is the way to go. I had high hopes for the NoteS…

> ... but the lag is a dealbreaker for me ... well, according to the twitter-post (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4052175) it seems that the whole thing was filmed in high-speed (https://twitter.com/collusionapp/status/208366845781221377/p...)

Re: Collusion - iPad pen productivity solved

#44
post #40
post #5

The video still shows a lot of lag between when the stylus touches the glass and the pixels in the app show the pen trail. This needs to be heavily optimized or else it will make their hardware a lot of engineering work for nothing and users won't be happy. At this stage, from the video, it looks to have similar latency as other existing iPad sketch apps and those have no hardware dongle or stylus (and cost $100 less…

I asked about the lag and they responded with this tweet. https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/collusionapp/status/2083668457...

> due to high-speed filming

The laggy footage starting at 0:28 looks like real-time to me. You can see the crosshair falling behind at 0:35 too, and that's clearly normal speed unless the guy can do handwriting in slow-motion. And I can't think of any way a high framerate would affect the perception of lag when played in realtime.

Re: Collusion - iPad pen productivity solved

#45
post #5

The video still shows a lot of lag between when the stylus touches the glass and the pixels in the app show the pen trail. This needs to be heavily optimized or else it will make their hardware a lot of engineering work for nothing and users won't be happy. At this stage, from the video, it looks to have similar latency as other existing iPad sketch apps and those have no hardware dongle or stylus (and cost $100 less…

It's a neat idea, but the lag is a dealbreaker for me. I've been looking/waiting for a pen based note-taking solution, even if it's a unitasking solution, to get rid of the heavy hardcover sketchbook in my briefcase. My use case is simple, I just want a digital copy of my notes -- I don't need any OCR or anything fancy like that, and I'm not convinced that a LiveScribe is the way to go. I had high hopes for the NoteS…

Either Penultimate or Paper are fit for the task. Paper has slightly better tracking allowing for more detail, and the pencil simulation is great. The only thing missing is real pressure sensitivity.

Re: Collusion - iPad pen productivity solved

#46
post #42

BUT YOUR HAND CAN'T REST ON THE SCREEN :(

> Collusion offers the highest precision input available for the iPad via a dedicated digital pen (not a capacitive stylus). We've also developed sophisticated (proprietary) palm rejection technology so you can write and draw naturally with your hand resting on the screen.

Re: Collusion - iPad pen productivity solved

#47
post #20

If you're looking for a tablet with a highly accurate stylus (made by Wacom) buy the Galaxy Note 10.1.

Every time I see one of these stylus products for an iPad I chuckle. An active digitiser would be a great addition to a future model, but if pen input is important to you, look elsewhere.

Re: Collusion - iPad pen productivity solved

#49
post #5

The video still shows a lot of lag between when the stylus touches the glass and the pixels in the app show the pen trail. This needs to be heavily optimized or else it will make their hardware a lot of engineering work for nothing and users won't be happy. At this stage, from the video, it looks to have similar latency as other existing iPad sketch apps and those have no hardware dongle or stylus (and cost $100 less…

When I tried it last night, the guys said that the lag is due to iOS framework stuff, but they have an open gl version in the works which fixes it

Re: Collusion - iPad pen productivity solved

#50
Come on, whatever you do only the resistive screen or active styluses can make iPad usable for handwriting -- the first would kill this "slidiness" and glass surface which seems a core selling factor for this stuff, the second would require a wired stylus or a battery-draining wireless powering. Ergo, if you wish pen productivity, buy an old tablet PC.
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