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Show HN: Openkoda – Open–source, private, Salesforce alternative

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Re: Show HN: Openkoda – Open–source, private, Salesforce alternative

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Post by mateus1 »

tootie wrote: post #16

Is this meant to be a drop-in replacement for Salesforce or just another CRM? There's a built-in advantage to choosing the tool that everybody uses and that's compatibility. If you look at 1000 data integration or marketing automation tools on the market, 1000 of them will have OOTB integration with Salesforce as a selling feature. Just to be realistic, building a better CRM won't be enough to replace Salesforce.

Nothing can be a drop-in replacement for Salesforce as it is designed almost exclusively to lock-in customers.

Re: Show HN: Openkoda – Open–source, private, Salesforce alternative

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Post by mgl »

tootie wrote: post #16

Is this meant to be a drop-in replacement for Salesforce or just another CRM? There's a built-in advantage to choosing the tool that everybody uses and that's compatibility. If you look at 1000 data integration or marketing automation tools on the market, 1000 of them will have OOTB integration with Salesforce as a selling feature. Just to be realistic, building a better CRM won't be enough to replace Salesforce.

Salesforce nowadays is more a universal, business application platform. Closed, proprietary, with user-based pricing model.

Re: Show HN: Openkoda – Open–source, private, Salesforce alternative

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Post by echelon »

grepLeigh wrote: post #20

Salesforce's biggest value proposition is the partner ecosystem, which Salesforce has cultivated for like 20+ years. Some platform companies (Shopify comes to mind) cannibalize their plugin ecosystem by adding similar functionality to the core platform, but Salesforce deliberately avoids competing with software/services in the partner ecosystem. It's such a safe bet to build on top of Salesforce, because there's basi…

> Some platform companies (Shopify comes to mind) cannibalize their plugin ecosystem by adding similar functionality to the core platform, but Salesforce deliberately avoids competing with software/services in the partner ecosystem

When do you compete, and when do you cultivate?

Are some business sectors better at one versus the other?

Re: Show HN: Openkoda – Open–source, private, Salesforce alternative

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Post by mgl »

grepLeigh wrote: post #20

Salesforce's biggest value proposition is the partner ecosystem, which Salesforce has cultivated for like 20+ years. Some platform companies (Shopify comes to mind) cannibalize their plugin ecosystem by adding similar functionality to the core platform, but Salesforce deliberately avoids competing with software/services in the partner ecosystem. It's such a safe bet to build on top of Salesforce, because there's basi…

We actively look for service/technology partners, so if you want to build an application or extension on top of Openkoda for you or your clients we would be more than happy.

Openkoda Core is released under MIT license, so we have no means to stop you!

Re: Show HN: Openkoda – Open–source, private, Salesforce alternative

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Post by manuelabeledo »

llmblockchain wrote: post #13

In true enterprise fashion, they went with Java. Enterprise, confirmed.

Honest question, what's wrong with Java? It's performant, has mature libraries, good documentation, and supported pretty much everywhere.

Re: Show HN: Openkoda – Open–source, private, Salesforce alternative

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Post by finnh »

grepLeigh wrote: post #20

Salesforce's biggest value proposition is the partner ecosystem, which Salesforce has cultivated for like 20+ years. Some platform companies (Shopify comes to mind) cannibalize their plugin ecosystem by adding similar functionality to the core platform, but Salesforce deliberately avoids competing with software/services in the partner ecosystem. It's such a safe bet to build on top of Salesforce, because there's basi…

I am not sure I'd agree with that - at one point Salesforce tried to buy my company, which was a best-of-the-AppExchange partner, and their justification for their (very) low offer was "that's what it would cost us to copy you". We sold the company 2 years later for 10x their offer, without a ton in the way of new revenue (our AppExchange ranking mysteriously tanked after we turned down their offer).
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