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Re: Show HN: Openkoda – Open–source, private, Salesforce alternative

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Post by bfmalky »

tcdent wrote: post #3

Anybody have recommendations for similar projects written in Python? Curious to know the motivations for choosing Java in this case.

I would guess java was chosen for its high quality libraries, efficient runtime and its static typing, which enables easy and safe refactoring.

Re: Show HN: Openkoda – Open–source, private, Salesforce alternative

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Post by ActionHank »

mgl wrote: post #8
candiddevmike wrote: post #4

Last commit is 2 months ago? Are you still building it?

Yes, absolutely - the next release is scheduled for June, our current development cycle (which may not be ideal) is based on internal builds and testing before public release. The main reason is that there are e.g. insurance companies out there and whilst well, it's still open-source, we would not like to break anything for them.

Curious what testing is covered that you don't have automated as part of the CI?

Re: Show HN: Openkoda – Open–source, private, Salesforce alternative

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Post by likeafox »

tcdent wrote: post #3

Anybody have recommendations for similar projects written in Python? Curious to know the motivations for choosing Java in this case.

[Odoo is Python based](https://github.com/odoo/odoo) and the 'core' modules are open -

Not providing any endorsement of the software nor can I say how the Odoo CRM/CMS compares to Salesforce. I've tried migrating a non Salesforce business to Odoo twice and haven't had success yet.

Re: Show HN: Openkoda – Open–source, private, Salesforce alternative

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Post by hellcow »

mgl wrote: post #8
candiddevmike wrote: post #4

Last commit is 2 months ago? Are you still building it?

Yes, absolutely - the next release is scheduled for June, our current development cycle (which may not be ideal) is based on internal builds and testing before public release. The main reason is that there are e.g. insurance companies out there and whilst well, it's still open-source, we would not like to break anything for them.

Could you merge consistently and just cut stable releases on a scheduled cadence?

Re: Show HN: Openkoda – Open–source, private, Salesforce alternative

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Post by tootie »

Is this meant to be a drop-in replacement for Salesforce or just another CRM? There's a built-in advantage to choosing the tool that everybody uses and that's compatibility. If you look at 1000 data integration or marketing automation tools on the market, 1000 of them will have OOTB integration with Salesforce as a selling feature. Just to be realistic, building a better CRM won't be enough to replace Salesforce.

Re: Show HN: Openkoda – Open–source, private, Salesforce alternative

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Post by mgl »

ActionHank wrote: post #12
mgl wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, absolutely - the next release is scheduled for June, our current development cycle (which may not be ideal) is based on internal builds and testing before public release. The main reason is that there are e.g. insurance companies out there and whilst well, it's still open-source, we would not like to break anything for them.

Curious what testing is covered that you don't have automated as part of the CI?

These are mainly either integration tests with hard-to-automate third-party platforms and tests in more complex multi-tenant deployment scenarios.

There is also the Enterprise version which is developed in parallel with the open-source Core edition. Being a small team we just found it was easier to phase the release schedule.

Re: Show HN: Openkoda – Open–source, private, Salesforce alternative

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Post by mgl »

hellcow wrote: post #15
mgl wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, absolutely - the next release is scheduled for June, our current development cycle (which may not be ideal) is based on internal builds and testing before public release. The main reason is that there are e.g. insurance companies out there and whilst well, it's still open-source, we would not like to break anything for them.

Could you merge consistently and just cut stable releases on a scheduled cadence?

Yes, that's a good point - actually we were discussing this option (again!) just last week as we are cautious of not-that-frequent public releases.

Re: Show HN: Openkoda – Open–source, private, Salesforce alternative

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Post by grepLeigh »

Salesforce's biggest value proposition is the partner ecosystem, which Salesforce has cultivated for like 20+ years. Some platform companies (Shopify comes to mind) cannibalize their plugin ecosystem by adding similar functionality to the core platform, but Salesforce deliberately avoids competing with software/services in the partner ecosystem. It's such a safe bet to build on top of Salesforce, because there's basically 0 platform risk and the technology is ubiquitous.

What's your approach to plugins, add-ons, and service partners?

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