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Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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I doubt if they’ve completely eliminated social factors. Apparently people with tattoos “have higher levels of need for uniqueness, sensation seeking, and thrill and adventure seeking, but they have lower levels of self-esteem, attend religious services less, and are generally much less educated than individuals who did not have tattoos.” https://www.jyi.org/2016-april/2017/3/12/got-ink-an-analysis...

The last one bothers me the most: > generally much less educated than individuals who did not have tattoos To me, this seems obviously about social/economic class. If you work a good paying job, then you are much less likely to have tattoos, primarily because your co-workers do not have them. Before every HN commenters jumps on me, think about all the office worker normies out there, working normie office jobs, the p…

Brogrammers also tend not to have tattoos

Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

#165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best X-Files episode, "Never Again" from Season 4, is about toxic chemicals in tattoos.

>The best X-Files episode I believe you meant "Folie a Deux"?

"Bad blood", obviously

Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any given person, for sure. In aggregate though I bet you'd find correlations.

they are statistically cooler

Which is a strong confounding factor ...

"Sharing traits common in motor cycle gangs increases risk of cancer - new study"

Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

#167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are talking about non cancer causing chemicals to humans. The definition of a cancer causing chemicals is it will cause cancer. If it's a small dose it will not be easily detectable that doesn't mean it doesn't cause harm.

Everything is about dosage. Even a small enough amount of uranium isn't harmfull and is quite normal. It's at the point where trying to avoid it will cause more of an issue.

Trying to avoid tattoos doesn't cause any issues. Radiation is normal in nature. Injecting lead into your epidermis isn't. Any amount will do harm just like 1 cigarette is worse than 0.

Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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> A hypothesis that Christel Nielsen's research group had before the study was that the size of the tattoo would affect the lymphoma risk. They thought that a full body tattoo might be associated with a greater risk of cancer compared to a small butterfly on the shoulder, for example. Unexpectedly, the area of tattooed body surface turned out not to matter. As someone pointed out on the other thread about this[1], th…

Why so? Zero-order effects are not unheard of in biology. Example: the elimination rate of ethyl alcohol is dose-independent because any practically noticeable concentration of ethyl alcohol will saturate available alcohol dehydrogenases.

Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

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I’m not surprised — tattoo inks are not regulated and the colors are often formed with toxic compounds (e.g. copper). Then the needle avoids the protective barrier provided by the skin. Ironically, while working on a drug program that involved intradermal injection, we needed to tattoo the injection site so we could find it later. The FDA was very demanding that both the procedure and more importantly to them the dye…

Tattoo inks are regulated in the EU, my tattoo artist wasn't happy about the regulations when they were first announced a few years ago.

sounds like lots of regulations. Stuff gets worse to get better.

rohs solder. Leaded paints, enamel paints, water based paints. cars with smog pumps and catalytic converters.

Re: Possible association between tattoos and lymphoma

#170

If the correlation is proven true then that’s obviously terrible, but I’m in my mid 40s now, tattoo-less, and one of my biggest regrets is not getting a couple tattoos when I was younger. I feel like doing it now looks like a midlife crisis type thing. I always wanted one of those Thai tattoos where they manually tap tap tap the design into your skin with a mallet.

> I feel like doing it now looks like a midlife crisis type thing.

It sounds like you care a lot about what others think. It is never too late to stop doing that.

> I always wanted one of those Thai tattoos where they manually tap tap tap the design into your skin with a mallet.

Sounds absolute torture to me. But if you want that, hey, go for it. Never too late to decide for yourself what you want or don’t want.

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