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Apple's M4 has reportedly adopted the ARMv9 architecture

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Re: Apple's M4 has reportedly adopted the ARMv9 architecture

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Post by z500 »

lostlogin wrote: post #109
chongli wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MS Teams is by far the worst piece of software I’ve ever used. It is ungodly slow and it just gets slower the more you use it. I believe it is actually hitting the server to update the online/away status light for every single message in a conversation. If you turn off all the status update stuff in the settings then the software speeds up dramatically. Another thing you can do is find the folder where it caches ever…

Have you tried ‘New Teams’? It’s exactly the same but then you can have to open twice and drain your resources much quicker.

And as a bonus, Outlook stops reporting presence!

Re: Apple's M4 has reportedly adopted the ARMv9 architecture

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Post by alwillis »

capl wrote: post #2

Hmm, I was thinking of buying an M3 Pro 16” this summer, but maybe I should wait then

For those with MacBook Pro FOMO, do not read about the rumored foldable 18.8-inch screen MacBook Pro running on the M5 coming in 2026 [1].

[1]: https://www.macrumors.com/2024/05/23/18-8-inch-foldable-macb...

Re: Apple's M4 has reportedly adopted the ARMv9 architecture

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Post by hajile »

ribit wrote: post #29

They have not adopted ARMv9. This is still ARMv8, but with SME.

ARMv9.0 is very similar to ARMv8.5 (9.0 supersets 8.5 with SVE2, TME, TLA, and CCA), so it's not a massive deal. SME implies v8.7 which is basically identical to v9.2 except for those couple extensions previously mentioned.

I wonder if there is licensing at play though. Apple may have gotten a really great licensing deal on ARMv8 that they wouldn't be offered for ARMv9.

Re: Apple's M4 has reportedly adopted the ARMv9 architecture

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Post by usefulcat »

rkuska wrote: post #22
capl wrote: post #2

Hmm, I was thinking of buying an M3 Pro 16” this summer, but maybe I should wait then

That’s actually a nice side effect of all the *rumors pages. The rumors of future products keep me of buying the current products. I keep on using my previous products while saving money and planet and being excited about what future holds.

> The rumors of future products keep me of buying the current products.

For myself, I like to think of it as applied procrastination. I could buy that new thing I want today.. but something better will come along in time, so I can afford to put it off a while longer yet..

Re: Apple's M4 has reportedly adopted the ARMv9 architecture

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Post by ben7799 »

georgeburdell wrote: post #93
phkahler wrote: post #58

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>> So binary sizes are going to double? If you're already supporting 2 arch it will only increase by 50 percent to support a 3rd ;-)

IME Mac binaries are much smaller than Windows for your average third party software. I don’t know why.

Windows binaries often seem to have excess statically linked libraries.. even though they are called DLLs which is supposed to mean dynamic. They might be loading it dynamically but they still seem to have decided to include their own private copy.

I've even seen windows binaries have multiple different versions of the same DLL inside them, and it's a well known DLL that is duplicated multiple places elsewhere.

All OSes/Apps do this but maybe a lot of Mac apps do it a little less. (I don't even have any real statistical idea how common this is with windows apps either)

Re: Apple's M4 has reportedly adopted the ARMv9 architecture

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Post by hajile »

meindnoch wrote: post #7

So binary sizes are going to double?

ARMv9 is just ARMv8.5 with 4 extra extensions. It's not a complete overhaul like the ARMv7 to ARMv8 change was.

It's more comparable to x86 chips with AVX-512 and chips without AVX-512. 99% of your code is the same, but the compiler will generate SSE, AVX, and AVX-512 variants and choose the correct one based on the CPU.

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Post by causal »

zorrn wrote: post #60
heroprotagonist wrote: post #38

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Every character you type results in some sort of hit to their telemetry server. It will include the actual letter you typed, if you or your org are not configured to be in EU. With their EU configuration option (pulled from server every launch) it will only report the fact that you typed _something_. Now if that's not fun enough, their telemetry also covers mouse movements. Go ahead and watch your CPU as you spin you…

Do u have a source for this?

I really want one too. This is the closest thing I could find, but doesn't claim the keystroke level of detail described above: https://www.zdnet.com/article/i-looked-at-all-the-ways-micro...

Re: Apple's M4 has reportedly adopted the ARMv9 architecture

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Post by JulianWasTaken »

alwillis wrote: post #122
capl wrote: post #2

Hmm, I was thinking of buying an M3 Pro 16” this summer, but maybe I should wait then

For those with MacBook Pro FOMO, do not read about the rumored foldable 18.8-inch screen MacBook Pro running on the M5 coming in 2026 [1]. [1]: https://www.macrumors.com/2024/05/23/18-8-inch-foldable-macb...

Without anything but a skim, surely there is no way a MB Pro ships with a virtual keyboard, that is pure torture.
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