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Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Post by EasyMark »

devit wrote: post #253
notRobot wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting how they insist that they use "so much more" than just Bing for their results, but the moment Bing goes down their search functionality is down entirely, unable to show a single result.

They probably start with Bing results and do custom filtering, ranking and presentation, so without the initial Bing results they can't do anything.

the most valuable service they provide is being a proxy for bing. they will never own up to it, but that in and of itself is an awesome service, as long as they're bing honest about your privacy.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Post by iechoz6H »

npteljes wrote: post #228

I love the acknowledgement that DDG put on their page. We're currently experiencing an issue with DuckDuckGo Search. Thanks for your patience while we get our ducks in a row. In the meantime, you can use other search engines right here by using "bangs" So fun and straightforward.

Nice, but they totally missed the opportunity to say 'Thanks for your patience while we get our ducks in a go'.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Post by rustcleaner »

roenxi wrote: post #275
rvnx wrote: post #186

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If you use Bing: You have "only" Microsoft Bing tracking you If you use DuckDuckGo: Now, you have "Yahoo Ads" instead of Microsoft Ads, but these ads, they are in fact Microsoft Ads, except sold via Yahoo. In front of these Yahoo Ads, DuckDuckGo actually adds its own click-through tracker. Now you have DDG, Yahoo and Microsoft tracking you. Bonus point if you click on an Amazon affiliate link, because in that case, t…

If you use a search product then someone is going to have your search history and it'll more-than-likely be provided to law enforcement in your country who are the #1 threat to you [0]. It'll also be sent to some sort of data centre for tracking and whatever commercial uses that tracking is good for. I've never understood how that would be a threat, but if you don't like it it comes almost baked in to the business mo…

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Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

niutech wrote: post #316
devit wrote: post #253

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They probably start with Bing results and do custom filtering, ranking and presentation, so without the initial Bing results they can't do anything.

So basically DDG is the wrapper for Bing Search, not an "independent" search company as they claim.

If they branded themselves as what it is, anonymized bing search with better features, I would be totally fine with that. As is, even if they don’t go with that branding, I have no problem using the service under those terms.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Post by 4ggr0 »

openplatypus wrote: post #466
kornhole wrote: post #340

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Yes it is one of many metasearch sites and not actually a search engine. Other engines include Kagi, Yandex, Brave, Mojeek, Quant, and something called Google.

Mojeek has its very own index.

Never heard of Mojeek and tested it right now, surprised how fast it feels! Going to use it as my default for a while.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Post by wazoox »

kornhole wrote: post #340
niutech wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So basically DDG is the wrapper for Bing Search, not an "independent" search company as they claim.

Yes it is one of many metasearch sites and not actually a search engine. Other engines include Kagi, Yandex, Brave, Mojeek, Quant, and something called Google.

Qwant is also a meta engine, and was also down yesterday.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Post by 4ggr0 »

elevatedastalt wrote: post #470
notRobot wrote: post #248

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Interesting how they insist that they use "so much more" than just Bing for their results, but the moment Bing goes down their search functionality is down entirely, unable to show a single result.

There are only 3 planet scale search indices I think. Google, Bing and Yandex. Everyone else is just rehashing those results.

Mojeek has its own index as well.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Post by 4ggr0 »

reddalo wrote: post #244
dewey wrote: post #168

> Hopefully DDG will be back soon, as I'm loathe to go back to Google for search. Maybe Kagi is an option for you? I'm very happy with them and exclusively use them for more than a year now after never getting comfortable with DDG.

Yep [1] is also a new interesting search engine, based on the index that Ahrefs [2], a SEO toolkit, has been keeping for 13+ years. The only downsite is that it's slower than DDG and Google. [1] https://yep.com/ [2] https://ahrefs.com/

Very reactionary, but an index built by an SEO toolkit sounds like the worst experience, ever. Isn't SEO the thing which broke online search to begin with?

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Post by pixxel »

tombert wrote: post #403
autoexec wrote: post #399

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Kagi has its own issues. At least with DDG you could search without logging in and your searches weren't directly tied to your name/address/credit card. Ads are best handled with ad blockers anyway. This rando's comments ( https://old.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/1bmubkd/thoughts_a... ) on the filter bubble problem seems like a reasonable concern too. It's best for a search engine to know nothing about you and just…

The privacy vs. anonymous thing is fair, and I have some issues with that, and I wish it were a bit more clear on what exactly that means. Even if Vlad's example of "parents knowing what you're doing but still respecting privacy" thing is true, it's not like I want my parents know I'm looking at porn, even if they don't know what kind of porn I'm looking at. That's something that they should address. I still trust Ka…

> I still trust Kagi more than basically any free service though

Please don’t. Just look at the paid services/products around you. Don’t give more PII to a browser vendor than is necessary.

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