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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by card_zero »

roughly wrote: post #322
card_zero wrote: post #306

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elsewhere in this thread I see comments that mention "low distraction", "calmer", and something about iPhones frying kids' brains. This all looks like snobbery to me, based on the association of monochrome paper with novels and writing and intellectual pursuits. In the 18th century we were scared that novels would fry the brains of young women, but times have changed and now it's iPhones that are sinful, and monochro…

By way of an experiment - set your phone screen to black & white (in iOS, settings -> accessibility -> display -> color filters -> [on] -> grayscale, on android, settings -> accessibility -> color & motion -> color correction -> [on] -> grayscale), and leave it that way for a day of normal use. Then, turn it off, and note how you react to the change. Folks aren't calling it calmer because they're trying to look erudi…

Just ignore them? Don't use manipulative apps?

I suppose for some people this is an issue and they genuinely want a physical solution in order to stop habitually doing things they don't like, like Odysseus wanting to be tied to the mast to avoid the Sirens.

I can predict how my behavior would change if I tried this: I'd be pissed off because you'd ruined my game of Heroes III (1999). And Brogue would be slightly less pretty. Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead would be much the same, and news sites and coding wouldn't change much. So my reaction would just be "this is gloomy", it's not like I need freeing from a hypnotic spell.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by rovr138 »

natsucks wrote: post #342
alemanek wrote: post #303

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Adding an additional comment here for a little extra visibility. I would absolutely love, like really love, a USB-C portrait monitor version of this. If I could just plug this in to my existing laptop and use it for reading specs, technical docs, …etc that would be amazing. Android tablet is a tough sell for my employer due to compliance, security, and such. So buying one of those for work use would take like a year…

Because it allows Android apps, might there be some screen sharing utility that would allow it to be used as a 2nd monitor?

Maybe. But for some employers, it's only their devices. Which would still mean going through the process above.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by bschwindHN »

boochiboo12 wrote: post #45
up6w6 wrote: post #38

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> Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Paperlike epaper display that has no ghosting and high refresh rate - 60 to 120fps. We started working on this in 2018. The website mentions 60hz, will it also support 120hz?

we're trying to underpromise and overdeliver, and our display can now do 60 - 120 fps, but believe it or not, our PDF renderer and software can't match that yet. So we're waiting till we can holistically do 120fps before announcing that. But if you do frame rate tests, you'll see its 120fps (for the nerds out there, its 6hz-120hz variable refresh rate IGZO)

How is the latency from input to visuals?

For example on an iPad pro 120Hz, it feels really close to actually just moving paper around. Does the Daylight Computer match that input latency?

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by mikhailt »

boochiboo12 wrote: post #132
mikhailt wrote: post #83

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What's your refund policy if we don't like it? There's no mention of refund/return on the page at all. Thanks.

full refund if you dont like it its vulnerable for us as a small startup on a shoestring budget to offer this, but it is the right thing to offer (sorry we will update the page to add details to refund/return!)

Totally get it and thank you for doing that. I’ve placed an order already.

It’s just there’s also the risk of getting “scammed” by a new startup as well, having it on record would help.

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Post by brailsafe »

card_zero wrote: post #340
coldtea wrote: post #330

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> This all looks like snobbery to me, based on the association of monochrome paper with novels and writing and intellectual pursuits You say it like it is a bad thing. It is associated with novels and writing and intellectual pursuits, because it's less suitable for video/graphics focused social media, videos, and games. > but times have changed and now it's iPhones that are sinful, and monochrome displays are virtuo…

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Seems like you're... defending the exploitation of compulsive behavior.

Most media platforms are designed to exploit the same behavioural patterns s gambling, and it makes perfect sense to be able to restrict the likelihood of undesirable possible intrusions. If you want to isolate the act of reading or doing anything else without the possibility of being drawn over to an endless stream of videos, seems like a joyful and practical move. Then if you want to watch a video, go do that deliberately, there's no reason not to attempt to exert more control over your own attention, if something like this helps.

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Post by parhamn »

dmicah wrote: post #220
d--b wrote: post #143

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Please, tell me there's a phone coming along. Light Phone made a mistake not going Android. You totally nailed it with that casually dropped Spotify icon in that shot! I personally have zero use for a tablet. But if I can have an eink phone, with all the authentication apps I need to connect to work and do banking (and maps and Spotify), I'll drop that iPhone that is frying the brains of my kids instantly.

The Boox Palma doesn't have a cell connection but is a phone-sized Android based e-paper tablet.

I've never owned an android, but for any android folks: how do you all think about device security/privacy when the manufacture is relatively unknown and overseas?

I really wanted to get one, but didn't know the risks associated with this.

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Post by adriand »

roughly wrote: post #322
card_zero wrote: post #306

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elsewhere in this thread I see comments that mention "low distraction", "calmer", and something about iPhones frying kids' brains. This all looks like snobbery to me, based on the association of monochrome paper with novels and writing and intellectual pursuits. In the 18th century we were scared that novels would fry the brains of young women, but times have changed and now it's iPhones that are sinful, and monochro…

By way of an experiment - set your phone screen to black & white (in iOS, settings -> accessibility -> display -> color filters -> [on] -> grayscale, on android, settings -> accessibility -> color & motion -> color correction -> [on] -> grayscale), and leave it that way for a day of normal use. Then, turn it off, and note how you react to the change. Folks aren't calling it calmer because they're trying to look erudi…

I had no idea this was possible, wow, very cool! I turned this on and I’m going to try it out. I kind of love the idea of a grayscale screen and I had no clue I owned one already!

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by Talinx »

robsh wrote: post #343
alemanek wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Adding an additional comment here for a little extra visibility. I would absolutely love, like really love, a USB-C portrait monitor version of this. If I could just plug this in to my existing laptop and use it for reading specs, technical docs, …etc that would be amazing. Android tablet is a tough sell for my employer due to compliance, security, and such. So buying one of those for work use would take like a year…

When plugged in to a computer, it would be cool if it reverts to being a smart display with touch screen. It could still charge and transfer files too maybe? I don’t know enough about USB-C, but I really wish devices could do dual function like this.

The Minisforum V3 is a tablet that can also be used as a monitor via USB-C, so definitely possible. I wish more tablets would work that way.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by paholg »

jimmysong wrote: post #159
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

As one of the beta testers, let me just say that I really like this device. It's very different than a kindle, kobo or reMarkable in that the refresh rate really makes a big difference. When I show this device to people, I show them how quickly zooming in on a PDF is. It's way faster and more responsive than any e-ink screen and it's way less addicting than the typical laptop, phone or tablet. I'm attempting to make…

It says you can install any Android app. So I can just like browse websites in Firefox? How is that experience?
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